I don't know whether you had a chance to go and visit Tom Braithewaite Robert. Tom teaches Lung Ying , Yang style tai chi and LHBF. Tom was Gold Medalist in Hong Kong Internal Kung Fu Championships 2003 (performing Liu He Ba Fa). He studied Liu He Ba Fa directly from one of the China’s most highly regarded masters – Cheung Kwok Tai. Grandmaster Cheung is also one of the world’s few genuine experts in the rare art of Liu He Ba Fa, having learned from Tsan Tzan Yi and Choi Ho Ching do djeung. Certainly worth visiting Tom if you get a chance or attending one of his seminars. LFD