Liddell vs. Silva

Discussion in 'Fight Discussions' started by stellhornata, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. Agutrot-

    Agutrot- Jack of all Trades

    He was just saying great strikers, but I'd say Horn had really good boxing. I'd say Horn and Silva have pretty similar striking styles. I'm calling it Lidell right here.(Although I may be biased as he's my favorite fighter.)
     
  2. McClanahan

    McClanahan New Member

    I see very little similarity between Horn and Silva's striking styles. Silva is by far a better striker than Horn will every be and is in my opinon the best striker Liddell has fought to this date. All I have to say is that Liddell better knock our Babalu quick and Silva better survive the Open Weight Grand Prix because I really want to see this fight happen.

    McClanahan
     
  3. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    The odds of Silva getting through a fight with Cro=cop without any injuries is extremely small.
     
  4. Slindsay

    Slindsay All violence is necessary

    Silva vs Cro Cop is actually as exciting to me as Lidell vs Silva to be honest, two truly awesome stand up strikers taking each other on, both have solid ground games though I think the edge might be with Silva in this seeing as he's (Supposedly) a BJJ black, should be an interesting fight.

    Lidell vs Silva is more interesting fight because in a lot of peoples minds (Mine included) this is Pride vs UFC. personally I think the quality of UFC fighters and fights tends to be slightly lower than the Pride fights. It's not that the UFC turns out bad fights, it's more that they tend to come on the under card.

    Anyway, Lidell has a way of winning his fights when on paper he really shouldnt, he has an average ground game and what appears to be a decent but sloppy stand up game, the thing is he just tends to, well, knock people out, it's timinbg I guess, he seems to be the Van Helsing of the MMA world because of it though so for that reason i ain't counting him out but on paper you have to go with Wanderlei all the way.
     
  5. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    Well he would have to take Cro-cop down which is going to be a difficult task, I think he will follow Fedors gameplan and bullrush Cro-cop. Hard to kick someone when they are right up against you.
     
  6. Korpy

    Korpy Whatever Works

    EVen though Liddell is a favorite of mine, there's no way he's getting passed Silva. (who's my 2nd fav fighter) ON striking, yes they are pretty even. But once Wandy gets Chuck into the clinch, he's done for. Also I gotta say, I think Wandy has a better ground game then Chuck. (we don't get to see their ground game really)

    All I know is that it will be a memorable, memorable.... memorable fight. Which will end with Wandy regining supreme here in the states.
     
  7. Agutrot-

    Agutrot- Jack of all Trades

    Chuck is a purple belt in BJJ. I can't see him getting beat on the ground. I can't even see him on the ground unless he wants to be.
     
  8. Korpy

    Korpy Whatever Works

    Yeah... and Silva is from Chute Boxe. They are know fro being great stnading on and on the ground. Chuck is done for.
     
  9. Korpy

    Korpy Whatever Works

    Insult to Babalu?

    This has to do with Silva vs Liddell.

    Ok Liddell will get a chance to fight silva, if he gets passed Babalu. The way the UFC is acting, makes Babalu look like an inconvience insted of a real contender. He is a really good fighter who does have a chance to take Liddell down and win the title. But insted people are seeing him as a minor road block. Is it just me, or is that pretty insulting?
     
  10. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    Silva is a black belt, has been for 3 or so years and trains with GREAT submission fighters everyday.

    If it goes to the ground then Silva has the advantage, however Liddel might have the best sprawl I have seen and Silva would likely not attempt a takedown anyway.
     
  11. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    A pretty credible theory is that this is a simple publicity stunt. They make this announcement when Liddel has a tough fight ahead of him, while Silva has a very tough fight/s with Cro-cop and if he gets beyond him then Barnett or Nog and IF he gets that far then Fedor.

    The odds both fighters will come out of their upcoming fights without injury is so small, Chuck Norris would begin a MMA career before this would happen.

    As to it being insulting, it probably is a bit. However Babalu knows this is a business and that Liddel is very popular, so he also likely understands it. Doesn't mean he likes it though, he may come in very angry(the dude looks scary when hes smiling much less angry) and take Liddel out.

    Also, I think that there is some stipulation where whoever wins the Liddel-Babula fights Silva.
     
  12. Sever

    Sever Valued Member

    With the amount of English Babalu speaks, he probably hasn't got a clue what the hell's going on here ;)
    On a serious note, Chuck has given interviews swearing that he's not looking past Babalu (doing so would be moronic), which I suspect he won't be since if this fight actually happens, I'll change my sig for two weeks to something really daft. That's how convinced I am that this fight won't happen
    Whether Babalu cares about the alleged Silva fight or not, Liddell's in for one hell of a fight this time and he'd better bring his top game, or it'll be Babalu supposedly fighting Silva (the fight's for the title - if Liddell loses, he won't be the champion so he won't be defending the belt)
     
  13. McClanahan

    McClanahan New Member

    I'm fairly confident that Liddell will beat Babalu. Liddell went through Jeremy Horn and he fights similar to Babalu. And look at the records: Horn 87-14-6, Babalu 27-5-0. Horn was a much more experienced fighter and Liddell worked him over the entire time. They are both submission specialists and if the Iceman could handle the more experieced fighter, he should be able to take Babalu.
    As far as the UFC considering Babalu a stepping stone or a pushover, I dont think that's true. They are glorifying this fight. The UFC normally only uses the names of fighters in the event's title for a huge fight such as UFC 57: Liddell vs. Coture 3. This one is called UFC 62: Liddell vs. Sobral. Maybe they are just doing this to gain more payperview buys from people who want to make sure that Chuck beats Babalu so he can have his fight with Wanderlei this November. But I dont think they are completely overlooking him. The only example of that I can think of is when they brought Silva into the UFC ring and said, "Wanderlei will fight Chuck this November." or whatever. That's kinda looking straight past Chuck's fight at UFC 62.

    McClanahan
     
  14. Oversoul

    Oversoul Valued Member

    Maybe, but Babalu DID beat Horn in 2003 and has only gotten better since. I think he can pull off a win against Liddell--if he doesn't decide to take a head kick like last time...
     
  15. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    Not to mention his 10 fight winning streak.

    Just watched soem of his highlights, he has some great takedowns.
     
  16. Ecks

    Ecks New Member

    Looking forward to this fight. Can't wait to see some great strikers, and really see who can handle each other on the ground. I'm going with Silva on this though, I personally think he's a more vicious striker, and is better on the ground.

    Hopefully the PPV will be a little better than UFC 61's horrible card.
     
  17. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    Don't get your hopes up, the odds are very low that this fight will actually happen.
     
  18. Rapid

    Rapid Valued Member

    Chuck could beat silva

    Ive seen some clips of silva and hes savage, chuck has the ability to knock out silva in one punch, my prediction silva steams forward throwing a barrage of punches, chuck counterpunches the <deleted> out of him, silva might try to then go ground, chucks takedown defence is to good to keep him down, chuck has every tool to kill silva, hes to good a counterpuncher to be beaten by wild punches, silvas to angry and needs to calm down if he doesnt want to get knocked out early by chuck
     
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  19. jfreelancer4706

    jfreelancer4706 New Member

    chuck vs silva!!!

    this should be sweet... ive heard of silva and that hes tough as nails...
    id like to see chuck freeze him out, but i dont know...

    should be good though..











    -j
     
  20. Apotheosis

    Apotheosis Valued Member

    Well, Silva has fought people with more power than Chuck and they didn't KO him...(Hunt for example)

    SIlva isn't so much a "wild" striker as he is aggressive, he doesn't fight stupid.

    Silva isn't "angry", he is very aggressive. He essentially overwhelms his opponent with pur aggression, and the other guy ends up getting ko'ed.

    His last loss by KO came from Beelfort way back when he was in the UFC.
     
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