Kumite or Kata?

w/c do you prefer? Kata or Kumite?

 

Kumite is easier.
I like kata alot too though, I voted Kumite.

 

I really liked Kata. I thought it was fun and interesting to learn. My Karate school changed to a MMA school though. I could still learn the kata by going to open class on fridays, but I really liked doing it in class. It was a nice cool down exercise.

 

I voted kata, it is the foundation of the style that holds it up.

 

I would pick both. Where Kata can contain the movements and techniques, Kumite can release them during sparring.

 

Kumite. You can have MA without kata, you can't have MA without kumite.

 

No. you can not have Martial arts without kata. Kumite is just a game of tag. Even full contact sparring is not reality. True, kata is not reality either, but the techniques simulated in kata are what would be devistating to an opponent in a reallity situation.

 

You can't have martial arts without kata? What about arts like kickboxing, muay thai, JKD, boxing + many others? aren't they martial arts because they have no kata?

 

sparring is a hell of a lot more 'real' than punching the air is
I think that to learn how to do a technique properly, it does have to be practised on an opponent. It's about distancing, timing, reach, targetting, and all those other things that kata don't teach you.

 

Martial arts and games or sports are two different things. Kumite, boxing, kickboxing are only games. You can certainly learn a lot from sparring. I did suggest that you could not. What I said was, Kata is the real essence of a martial art because kumite is really only a game of tag. Lots of fun and I like nothing more than kumite, but it is not real.

 

Neither is kata in fact it's much less real because you are not practising techniques against a resisting oponent

 

It is really about your perception. In kumite you don't crush your opponents wind pipe, break their arm or gougue out their eyes. But in kata you practice those elements all the time. Kata is not just a series of meaningless dance moves. You are focusing on the internal components that create good fighters, developing poise, dexterity, flow and so on that become part of your real fighting when and if you are faced with the choice to use your martial arts

 

KATA!
Nuff Said

 

wohoo another kata vs sparring thread.

 

For me its the forms if having to select one or the other. Why - because I use it for inspiration in my fighting. Guess though you should do the most of whatever you want to excel at.

Regards

 

This thread is getting a little lame-brained, might I say?

so? you can't do that in kata. Reason being, you don't have an opponent to crush his windpipe.

 

Mr. knight,
You just don't get it , do you?

 

no, you don't

 

No I think he ( Knight-E) gets it.
There are limits in kumite but there are also limits in kata.
Dam ur fast Knight -E