If you are interested in discussing how things are different as well as the same between barefisted fighting and fighting with boxing gloves, I would love to discuss further. Otherwise, I'll leave it at what we have now.[/QUOTE] I've always had an intrest in Pugilism,my dad was a Bouncer My uncle was a fairground bareknuckle fighter and a dockyard fighter. I started boxing at a very young age and in some ways I feel a good understanding of how to punch is all you need in a fight. I've always been attracted to arts that are direct and straightforward like boxing,KB or MT. Never got into forms or Katas,But maybe one day.