Can that be practiced in a systematic routine of repetition from a detailed choreographed pattern used to preserve, assist, and aid ( in a more general or figurative sense)?
Mr. Miyagi teaches karate. Cobra Kai ALSO teaches karate. So no. (Actually a real answer despite the movie reference). So long as it's formalized and scripted instead of free-form. You see this a lot in Enshin and some other Kyokushin-derived styles (but not Kyokushin itself) where they ditch the traditional kata and instead teach kata that are sparring combos. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbXrpKHUoWI"]Enshin Karate- Black Belt Kata (Kuro Obi No Kata) - YouTube[/ame]
re: kickboxing: i may be wrong on the sequence of events, but as i understand it, kickboxing is a style (kickboxing), originated from a sporting ruleset (kickboxing competitions) that originated from another sporting ruleset (full contact karate) that originated from another sporting ruleset (shiai kumite) because some karateka wanted to beat the crap out of each other harder than the other karateka were doing
I think it's more about creating muscle memory, but it definitely requires repetition, although the choreography is much less rigid.
Karate comes from Okinawa, originally a tributary of china, later seconded into the nation of japan. The origins of karate lie in cultural exchange with china that was later colored by cultural exchange with japan. The original usage of the name karate is Chinese hand. So what really makes karate, karate is that it is kungfu !
Those are the type of technical answers I was really hopeing to get about this fake vs. Liget karate question I've had for while now. So I'm curious as to what you mappers think about american versions of karate, I know chuck Norris is favored as a system founder from the states but what about these podunk schools and gyms.
But if you go back far enough doesn't Kung Fu come from Indian monks, who were in turn fabled to have learnt their skills from training with the Hellenic soldiers Alexander brought there, among whom it was rumored a number of Olympic medalists served.
Yes. And the ancient Greek arts were themselves based on the older animal fighting style of Hyborian warriors.
Sorry to backtrack a couple of pages, but when you live in the opposite timezone to most of the rest of MAP, life is a perpetual game of catchup. Associations/organisations are political. They don't exist to teach karate, they exist to maintain and control power. We learn karate from individuals. Their legitimacy comes from who they learned from/trained with and who those people learned from/trained with. Of course they could be absolute rubbish, but if their training link is authentic then they are legit. And that's why karate is such a broad and varied church. It is the lineage back to Okinawa that confers the name. And given that Okinawa had a number of relatively separate traditions called 'karate', and the subsequent global dispersal of karate post WWII, it's no surprise that one man's karate may be unrecognisable as such to another karateka.
