Karate Jutsu?

that's reassuring
I was about to forget it - I may still go along

 

Just chucking it out there that's all.

It has as you say a few people with hands on experience with him, thought it might be useful.

 

I've never been impressed by any of Mr Wingrove's demos (and I have seen a several).

I'll confess to not knowing him (or his teachings) in any depth, but I do see an alarming rise in Karate instructors who seem now to "specialise" in kyusho (vital point knowledge).

I'm no one to talk, but it seems as these said instructors get older and wider (and thus mobility is lost) kyusho is the answer...!? well it is an answer but so is keeping yourself in shape - enter stage left "Keiko"!

Thing is - train with a good instructor - and he/she will already have this detail.

 

If you want Shotokan karate with effective self defence then 30 minutes away is exactly what you want http://www.d-a-r-t.org.uk/index.html

 

Update.........

Well, i went along to the Karate Jitsu class last night.

when i arrived there was 2 people - one was the instructor !!
One other guy turned up a bit late, but yeah that was the class, 3 of them.
Felt like just turning around, but thought i would stick it out.

The instructor seemed like a nice enough guy, showed me the basic kata, which they then did for about 10 minutes.

Then they started doind forward rolls on mats - which i thought was a bit strange. havent done that since primary school............

then after that, the rest of the class- apart from a little bit of stretching, seemed to be sitting on a floor in pairs. locating pressure points on arms and neck, which was quite painful, especially with this big bloke i sat with.

got to say i found it all a little silly, his excuse seemed to be ' oh, we dont just go up and down the room - doing punches and kicks, etc

so yes, dont think i will be gong back.

The Wingrove association, was also in the back of my mind.

To me karate is about Kata, not sitting on the floor pinching each other.
There is one more class i have found near me, that Teaches Karate 'Wado Ryu' style, i may give that a go next week

running out of options..................

 

Seriously, check out jwt's class, you won't be sorry.

 

i would, but to be honest Wycombe is going to be just a little too far out for me im afraid.

 

like i said previously - its too far out for me - for reasons i wont go into in here
need something 'closer to home'

 

Didn't Wingrove fall out of favour, even with people that rate him as a martial artist?
Read some unsavoury stuff about him.

 

im not impressed with the film i have seen of him
As a large part of this class was to do with the Pressure point stuff, i just decided it wasnt for me.
Then again , with a total of 3 people every week, maybe a few have tried it and then left.

 

As my name's been mentioned I'll wade in, somewhat belatedly, at this point.

I did a reasonable amount of training at one point with Terry Wingrove. I don't do so now but then I don't really go to anyone's seminars any more. That's more a reflection on my injury issues than anything else.

I'm also aware there has been much talk of financial issues that people have had with Terry Wingrove. I had no financial concerns at all in any of my dealings with him but I know there are people who believe they have genuine issues on that front. I simply don't know enough to comment.

One thing I can say is training with Terry has been the most painful experience I've ever had in martial arts. But I never received any lasting injury. Nor did I see anyone else do so. His skill at causing pain (but without injuring) is second to none in my experience. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I've also met the instructor of the class in question, Rakesh, a few times over the years. I can't comment on his instruction but he always struck me as a friendly, genuine person. I think I'd have questioned whether the content of that one lesson was typical, and also of course made a personal judgement on the value of it in its own right.

I'd also recommend training with JWT from what I know of him, but I'm sure several people have said that already.

Mike

 

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