Judo: MMA or TMA?

Discussion in 'Judo' started by Adam, Nov 24, 2003.

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  1. Adam

    Adam New Member

    Is judo considered a TMA or a MMA? We have the gi and the japanese terminology but on the other hand it is a fighting sport, doesn't seem to stress discipline as much as other TMAs and has a generally more relaxed attitude. This is of course just my experience with the art.

    Is judo MMA or TMA?
  2. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter


    Damned good one too :D
  3. Trent Tiemeyer

    Trent Tiemeyer Valued Member

  4. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    I was waiting for this thread to start up ever since I asked the question in another thread ;)

    TMA, and IMHO one of the best TMA's out there!
  5. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN New Member

    What's a TMA?
  6. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Traditional Martial Art.

  7. judojedi

    judojedi Officer of the Crown

    judo isn't either of them as its a sport not an MA.
    but i suppose you could say it uses tradition martial arts forms, to form a modern sport.

    and i agree with freeform, one of the best systems you can learn. one of the fun-ist aswell.
  8. Cain

    Cain New Member

    MA is not a sport? :confused:

    Muay thai?


  9. judojedi

    judojedi Officer of the Crown

    thats right, its how come judo and boxing are allowed in the olympics and karate/kung fu/etc are not.
    dunno about muay thai.
  10. Cain

    Cain New Member

    WTF? Just because it's in the olympics does'nt mean it's not an MA, your definition of a sport seems to be "X" must be in the olympics....

    Karate is also a sport I hope you know that ;)

  11. judojedi

    judojedi Officer of the Crown

    no, my definition of a sport is not that it has to be in the olympics. but a game/activity/whatever must be a sport before its allowed in the olympics.
    judo is a sport. thats why judoka are refered to as judo players.
    Martial arts are not allowed in the olympics, therefore judo, wrestling, boxing, fencing, swimming, pole vauting, 100m sprint, javlin and the hammer are all sports.

    karate is not a sport. it might have sport aspects to some styles but karate (the major forms at least) is a MA.

    combat sport does not equal martial art, martial art does not equal combat sport.
  12. Adam

    Adam New Member

    Interesting. What differentiates a martial art from the sport arts?
  13. judojedi

    judojedi Officer of the Crown

    dunno exactly, my sensai said judo was originally declared a sport so international competitions could take place with sports insurance. hence the reason is money.
    dunno how true this is though.

    however my therory is where it comes from, east or west.
    judo would be the exception in this case though.
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  14. Cain

    Cain New Member


    It does'nt mean if something's not in olympics it's not a sport, that would be Karate [yep it's a sport too] Jiu Jitsu, MMA, and yes - Muay thai.

    My point is a style can be an MA and still be a sport, why do they have to be different things?

  15. judojedi

    judojedi Officer of the Crown

    :rolleyes: tut

    usually people have the courtesy to read posts they are replying to, before they reply.
    i said that
    "x" does not have to be in the olympics to be a sport.
    "x" must be a sport to be in the olympics.
    would you like me to explain again?:p

    karate, may well be a sport it one form or another, however karate is not allowed in the olympics as it is classed as a MA. FACT.
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2003
  16. Adam

    Adam New Member

    Taekwondo is allowed in the olympics. Is TKD a martial art or not?
  17. judojedi

    judojedi Officer of the Crown

    well i'd say TKD is a MA, but as you say, its in the olympics.

    ha ha, kinda throws my argument out don't it?
    maybe a martial art, under certain rules/conditions can become a sport. i will look into this as it looks like i've bin stumped.
  18. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Is boxing an MA or not? Same as TKD?

    They can be both I don't see why people throw in the "sport" and "martial art"?

    They can be both, nothing's the problem with that :D

  19. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Doh! Adam sorta beat me to it! :D

  20. 4-n-zics

    4-n-zics New Member

    I am new here and this is my first post.. I thought I would throw something into the mix:

    it is not the Olympics, but Karate made its debut as a medal sport at the 1999 Pan American Games in Winnipeg, Canada.

    Last edited: Nov 24, 2003
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