I've got a question about fa jing

Discussion in 'Internal Martial Arts' started by Taiji_Lou, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. Taiji_Lou

    Taiji_Lou Banned Banned

    Hey much respect to all you "true" taiji MAs on this site.

    Okay, quick question I know yall can help me with. I've got all that chi stuff going on.... trying to learn fa jing and kong jing. I borrow power and follow and understand and listen, I can stick and move with my partner liek a mirror (usually my younger brother) and I do prebirth breathing and condensing (I'm not COMPLETLEY ignorant, anyway...) all of that good stuff. I'm trying to really develop that thing where we're having a push hands contest and i kind of "loose up and tense up" and send my lil bro way off balance.

    any pointers on developing this? it seems to be fa jing because i'm not like, shoving him, just "using force", if you can dig that.

    i'm talking focus tips, or maybe sensations I should be more alert to? should i be drawing in, then pushing out (chi, not li, you know)? anything helps. not too many taiji masters here in good ol' hampton roads.
     
  2. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear Moved on

    You could use crystals or lots of herbal tea. You know what really helps, baggy flowing chinese jammies.
    Or you could attend some Tai Chi seminars if there is no local instructor.

    The Bear.
     
  3. Taiji_Lou

    Taiji_Lou Banned Banned

    I don't know about the whole crystals thing... I don't think that would help my taiji, anyway. I'll do some more research.

    Herbal tea? Really? I like the arizona stuff, but it makes me pee, you know? Herbal tea probably won't help me cultivate jing.

    Taiji seminars sound good.... we've got bending tree... I'll look into that, anyway.

    Why do they call you the bear? They call me "The Lou."
     
  4. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear Moved on

    It's in the sig.

    The Bear.
     
  5. Taiji_Lou

    Taiji_Lou Banned Banned

    We're getting waaaay off topic here. I guess you're a marine or something. That's awesome!

    Play nice.
    What does
    SICUT PISCES CONVIVIA, FERI PROELIIS ET HEROES FORNICATIONIBUS
    mean?
     
  6. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear Moved on

    Nope, Degree educated physicist, software engineer and duellist actually.

    It is my group motto.
    "Drink like fish, fight like animals and ummm [fornicate] like heroes."

    The Bear.
     
  7. Taiji_Lou

    Taiji_Lou Banned Banned

    Holy crap. I guess you probably know what you're talking about, then. What's a duellist?

    Drink like... uhh.... water. Animals DO fight. Forninacate like superheros.
     
  8. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear Moved on

    Someone who fights against another armed opponent. In my case with swords.

    The Bear.
     
  9. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    Someone told me this training method:

    - Stand horse stance on top of a deep well.
    - punch downward into the well.
    - When the water 20 ft below the well surface jump up and make your shoes wet, your "kong jing" is then developed.

    I have tried it for the past 50 years, the water 20 feet below the surface still refuse to jump up for some unknown reason.
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2010
  10. Taiji_Lou

    Taiji_Lou Banned Banned

    I do horses stance, but not on wells. That's probably dangerous.

    Developmented isn't a word. It's a state of being.

    I think you mean "developed".

    Like your education, obviously.:rolleyes:
     
  11. Ular Sawa

    Ular Sawa Valued Member

    Very nice. I like it. Cheers!
     
  12. Taiwandeutscher

    Taiwandeutscher Valued Member

    Don't f.. with YouKnowWho, though he got no lingkong, all the rest is enough for you, certainly.

    PSST: He is a non-native English speaker like me, so give us a break.
     
  13. Saz

    Saz Nerd Admin

    Lay off the personal attacks please, that was uncalled for.
     
  14. Yuen Fen

    Yuen Fen Valued Member

    Taiji Lou, to be honest, you're coming across as a self taught loony.

    Forget about Chi. Instead, focus your energies on practicing, understanding and implementing the principles of Taiji quan, and developing your skills.

    If you insist on chasing after magical skills, you'll get nowhere.

    And Fajin means to "emmit power". That is all.

    However, you cannot Fa if you don't have Jin. So work on developing your power, and plenty of partner work.
     
  15. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    One simple Fajin method is "to compress to the maximum and then release it". A simple example will be to

    1. Execute a left leg forward bow arrow stance right back fist punch (just like any Karate back reverse punch).
    2. Let your right punch to go as far as possible.
    3. Raise your both heels and stand on your toes while your right punch can not go any futher (your right arm, right shoulder, chest, back leg are all in one straight line).
    4. Pull your right fist back, land both heels down, punch out your left arm, and end with a sideway horse stance (your left arm, left shoulder, chest, and back leg are also in one straight line).

    In step 4, you use the pulling to help you to send your punch out. If you can just repeat this simple drill, you can taste some Fajin flavor - from one extream to another extream.

    You can see this drill at 0.25-0.26 and 0.54-0.56 in this clip.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwZOqQ49rGM"]YouTube- ???[/ame]
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2010
  16. Taiji_Lou

    Taiji_Lou Banned Banned

    Hey, thanks! I've never tried that technique!
     
  17. crshieh

    crshieh Valued Member

    BEWARE OF PUSH HANDS!!
    It's the martial arts term for flirting.
    Twirling around circles touching each other and ****.
     
  18. El Medico

    El Medico Valued Member

    **** = slamming each other into brick walls.

    'cause y'all ain't aflirtin' 'til bloods been drawn.
     

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