is there a martial art based on an continuous flow of attack?

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  1. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

    But when you fail to block in such a manner, knowing how to cover up the head is much better than just getting punched in the head with no protection whatsoever.

    Like I said, in CLF I have been taught that all blocks can be strikes and all strikes can be blocks. However, is someone gets inside and I can't use a strike as a block, say I don't have time or the distance is wrong, I am darn well going to try to get my arm protecting my head.

    Also, I am taught to use footwork to get the punch to miss along with protecting myself. The arm is protection in case the footwork is not sufficient.

    Again, the more complete the style is in everything, the more options are open for different circumstances.
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  2. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    I was not suggesting that one should just cover up and play defence. it is more about how one can reasonably both attack and defend whilst coping with the overload of a sudden unexpected attack. circular counter attacks would come later once the conscious brain has time to catch up with what is going on.

    One recommended immediate response is to push your arms out in front of you. this is referred to as pushing away danger in the spear system self defence system. This is what I would recommend as an initial response if you are facing towards the attacker. Interestingly you find this move in different guises in many traditional arts, variants include, just throwing a fist straight out in front of you at face height or, throwing both hands forward at face height in a hand-on-fist salute, while tucking the chin and ducking between ones own shoulders :).
  3. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    This is one of the main ways things like "salutations" and "ready positions" in kata/patterns are used in "modern" combative bunkai/applications. Arms closer to the head or "palms in" variations (like the start of Naihanchi) are used as "flinch" or instinctive "crash helmets". But always this is a back up method to being pre-emptive and/or pro-active and is a way to get back in the game and overcome a barrage of blows when you're attacked by surprise or in the fence/dialogue phase of social violence. Rather than trying to block specific arms or attacks you cover what they are trying to hit (your head 99 times out of 100) and crash in to tie up and regain the initiative.
    Posture/moves like the start of Kanku dai, Naihanchi, Po eun or Kwang gae...

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  4. Botta Dritta

    Botta Dritta Valued Member

  5. Tom bayley

    Tom bayley Valued Member

    Thinking about the OP in terms of philosophy of forward pressure. Different arts approach forward pressure in different ways. Boxing for example has as much emphasis on backward and side to side movement as it does forward. Shota kahn karate has plenty of backward movement but when moving forward there is a lot of commitment of body weight. While from what I understand (happy to be corrected) southern praying mantis emphasises pushing as close to the opponent as possible to tie them up while dropping strikes vertically down on them. It is a compromise. the more forward drive you have the more physical pressure you put on your opponent and the harder your strikes, but the more open you are to being drawn off balance or to being slipped and attacked from the side or back.
  6. Grond

    Grond Valued Member

    Yes, in anime. :D

    Too many to bother mentioning, I think. They're all equally unrealistic. Start with Hokuto Shinken.

    Hokuto Shinken
  7. IronMaiden1991

    IronMaiden1991 Active Member

    I mean most of the 'relentless attacking' OP is asking about is just a strategy and relies on you being faster than the other person, more than anything.

    Im amazed we didn't start him with dragonball and the atatatatatatatatata of Super
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  8. Deepak patidar

    Deepak patidar New Member

    What is described sounds more like a particular strategy to me, rather than a whole system. It could be a dominant strategy within a particular system, but doubtful is the complete sum of the system itself.
  9. 23rdwave

    23rdwave Valued Member

    Yiquan has no defense. It is always on the attack. The body method it employs is its own defense.

    From the 0:30 mark
  10. IronMaiden1991

    IronMaiden1991 Active Member

    So it does have defense
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  11. john_newman

    john_newman New Member

    Kempo/Kenpo (either spelling) is a martial art characterized by the use of quick hand strikes (sneaky adversting linke deleted) in rapid succession. The multitude of fast strikes has a dual purpose, perhaps overwhelming an opponent, while attempting to ensure that at least some strikes effectively hit their target.
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  12. aaradia

    aaradia Choy Li Fut and Yang Tai Chi Chuan Student Moderator Supporter

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