Is boxing/muay thai less injury intensive than mma/bjj

Hey so yesterday I had just recovered from my rib injury after a month off like doctor told me.

So I went back to class and this rib was fine. We were drilling one two punch into a takedown then armbar. Did this solid for 1 hour. Then eventually my top rib cracked on impact during the takedown. So im out for another month!

Is this happening cos my body isnt used to grappling or is bjj/grappling more injury intensive than muay thai? Im thinking of maybe switching to training muay thai and learning grappling in a year or so when my bodies used to training and iv got some basic knowledge of how to fight.

 

Maybe learn BJJ and Muay Thai and leave wrestling until later? Wrestling is hard on the body and the more tired you and your partner are when drilling the more likely you are to get injured.

 

Why is wrestling harder on the body than BJJ? Thought it was just BJJ without the gi?

 

Or is it that gi provides some protection to the ribs as its thick fabric?

 

Wrestling = takedowns

BJJ = groundwork

CSW = a mix of nogi BJJ and wrestling, and others.




Very roughly, it's not a 100% black and White thing,

Also if your getting injured so much, scale back your hours and intensity until your body can cope with it.

 

it's the being thrown, or throwing that's the risk injury, especially in your scenario(ribs).

There will still be risks with BJJ or muay Thai, but you can take sparring easy to get around it.
It's difficult to spar takedowns/wrestling in a "light" format.

As @Pretty In Pink said, when you get tired, you don't fall so well, don't tighten the core as much, so chance of re injury increases.

 

No it's very different. In Wrestling all the grappling is aimed at starting on the feet and taking someone down. BJJ is reversing positions and catching submissions when you're already on the ground. As a result in wrestling you're lifting people and dropping them in wrestling and in BJJ they are already down so you're not likely to fall on them.

 

Team CrossFace @ NRG Watford | Watford // MMA // Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu // Muay Thai // Wrestling

So are you hurting yourself in the CSW sessions or the MMA classes?

 

Both but the big injury I got was when someone threw me and jumped on me putting me in side control. In csw.

 

That falls under the term "Wrestling".

Picking people up and putting them down = wrestling
Starting on the ground and getting submissions = BJJ

 

Try striking and BJJ seperately for a while, it'll give your ribs time to get used to the pressure.

 

Part of this might just be you training so much straight away, and/or going too hard for your nown body in drills, you've only been training eight odd weeks and you've already had four weeks off.

 

Thanks for your responce think ill look for a bjj specific gym and do that for a while. Is it a bad idea to intensly train one art?

I was doing 12 hrs a week of mma. Can I switch to 12 hrs bjj or do you have to slowly work up in grappling arts?

 

You have BJJ classes and striking classes at your gym, you can just do those and then work up your hours over time, from the website they have additional BJJ classes at another location too.

By injuring yourself twice, that's your body saying it's not ready for 12 hours a week, start at four or six for a while and then add on a few hours after a month or two, and have regular deload weeks where you only train once or twice.

 

From your gyms website

Mon

18:00-19:30 // Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (Gi)
19:30-21:00 // Muay Thai



Wednesday:

18:00-19:30 // MMA Pad Workout
19:30-21:00 // Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (Gi)


Friday:

19:00-20:30 // Muay Thai

Saturday:
11:00-13:00 // Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (Gi)

Sunday:
10:30-13:00 // Sparring / Open Mat

Also

Crossface is part of Team ICON.
When you become a member of Crossface you are welcome to train at any other ICON clubs at no extra charge. With another ICON club at West Herts Sports Club you can train BJJ 6 days a week in Watford.

 

I don't know, but I do think it's bad to fall badly. I don't think "arts" come into play here, more like physics, bad luck, and maybe your skill level. I'm pretty good at falling because I am not so coordinated and fell a lot as a kid. My eyesight is also terrible which didn't help. I'm pretty sure later on my clumsiness got me injured on more than a few occasions. I've put my face right in the danger zone of double crosses, and paid for it in brain slosh. A minor rib injury is to be expected, but I'd take that over a concussion any day. My advice is to lick your wounds and carry on. Try not to fall so bad next time, I guess.

 

As far as the original title asked, I think they're all equally injury intensive. And BJJ is not "safe", and it has a standup game too, with about the same injuries as Judo does and so on...Royce Gracie started on his feet every UFC match. One throw can KO somebody. It happens in the Olympics all the time. Limbs get destroyed in BJJ. Bodies get smashed in Olympic Judo. It's all the same from the practitioners POV, in my opinion.

 

BJJ has very VERY limited stand up and it's mostly practiced dead and never in sparring save for competition training.

 

Except in MMA and Vale Tudo, right? How do you define VERY limited? I was under the impression all or at least most of the Judo throws are included in BJJ. And I know people who were primarily BJJ artists did very well in the first UFCs on their feet. BJJ competitors start on their feet, do they not? Most of the competition videos of BJJ I have seen start like Judo and maybe continue on the ground, but some definitely end with one throw.