I'm wondering

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by vampyregirl, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I can read fine thanks, as can everyone else here pointing out the logical fallacies you postulate

    But as with Komuso I too am out because there is little point debating with someone who cannot even hold together a cogent argument
  2. 47MartialMan

    47MartialMan Valued Member

    It was not a matter of being right...it was using a example of stereotyping....
  3. Oddsbodskins

    Oddsbodskins Troll hunter 2nd Class

    Horse, Wa...huh.

    Why do you want to drown horses? Do we need a dead one to flog?
  4. 47MartialMan

    47MartialMan Valued Member

    Woa....dead horse....like this thread is like "beating a dead horse":p
  5. Oddsbodskins

    Oddsbodskins Troll hunter 2nd Class

    Well jeez if you have to go and spell it out.

    Some people got no mystery in their hearts...
  6. vampyregirl

    vampyregirl Moved on

    It does take a certain type of person to be a fighter. Its certainly not for everyone. A certain breed of person with a certain mindset. Their profession has so many dangerous pitfalls. Is such a person brave or crazy? Perhaps theres a thin line between the two.
  7. masterPain

    masterPain Valued Member

    Perhaps we can save this thread by discussing the psychological aspects of the sport, concerning natural aggression (not violence, they are related, but not the same) and how one who is not as aggressive by nature can still learn to excel in an aggressive game.

    Or I can tell you all how bad white people dance.
  8. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    Where's your facts to back up your opinion? Please post proof. Until then, it's just an outlandish opinion.
  9. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    If you are claiming that the amount of fighters who go bankrupt are disproportionately high, obviously there must be some kind of proportion of celebrities who go broke vs boxers who go broke that you have based your opinion off of. Otherwise there is no proportion to base your assessment off of, making it merely an opinion and not fact.
  10. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    Celebrities who have gone bankrupt in the modern age - Willie Nelson, Kim Basinger, Marvin Gaye, Jerry Lee Lewis, Burt Reynolds, MC Hammer, Judy Garland, Gary Coleman, Michael Jackson, Gary Busey, Sherman Hemsley, Wayne Newton, Vince Neil, Stephen Baldwin, Jose Canseco, Anna Nicole Smith, Gary Glitter, Ed McMahon, Tony Braxton, Lady Gaga, Larry King, Lindsay Lohan....

    "I could name a lot more names but I think you get the point now."
  11. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    While I have no idea how many boxers get loads of cash and then lose it (and like Vampyre I get a sense that it is perhaps a higher proportion than in other spheres) I am surprised at how many people (of all sorts) end up doing it.
    I think people in general are crap at dealing with money. They spend it. Give 'em £10 they'll spend it. Give them £10million quid they'll spend that too.
    But I'm surprised they don't look at others that have been through what they've done and put some money aside.

    I think boxers expose a general ineptitude in humanity to plan and deal with cash but seem more prominent because they earn so much.
  12. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    If you separate those who were just idiots with spending their money compared to those who got cheated by others, you'll see it's a lot lower. Don King cheated Tyson out of millions of dollars, and cheated several other prominent boxers as well.
  13. Moosey

    Moosey invariably, a moose Supporter

    I read something once about a tendency in people who grew up poor to budget around zero. By which I mean that they become used to the idea that a good month is one when where you break even and a bad month is one where you're in the red - keeping anything left above zero isn't an experience you ever have.

    Once you acquire this habit, it doesn't matter how much you increase the income, people still mentally budget around the point where "everything I have above zero is the amount I have available to spend".

    I have absolutely no scientific evidence around this (and I'm at work so can't go a-searching), but it certainly has a convincing ring of truth about it.
  14. finite monkey

    finite monkey Thought Criminal

    Italics my own

    This pretty much sums up all participents in any MA/Combat sport/Contact sport

    So, by this definition, I would have to say that to be a good fighter it is necersary to have a proclivity towards violence

    Having said that, all us male humans have a violent tendancy 'till it is socialised out of us
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2012
  15. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    I don't and I'll smack anyone that says otherwise.
  16. finite monkey

    finite monkey Thought Criminal

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  17. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    I'm here all week, don't forget to tip your waiter.
  18. Kwajman

    Kwajman Penguin in paradise....

    Having a mean streak certainly doesn't hurt. I've known a few UFC guys and the difference between them and street brawlers is that they could turn their streaks on and off depending on the circumstances. A bully is just a bully.
  19. komuso

    komuso Valued Member

    Hey Martialman,

    Odds was right, I just hate horses and the perfect end to a stupid argument for me is to drown one, followed by the ritual flogging that he so rightly suggested.

    Hang on a minute, that makes me violent, and it is the day before pay day so I am broke. Vampyregirl is onto something!

  20. 47MartialMan

    47MartialMan Valued Member

    LOL ;)

    For that matter, ALL Martial Artists are violent because we fight, strike, encounter other people......:hat:

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