Bear, I see what your saying, I don’t really think there is anything wrong with it, I mean perhaps if I was wholly fixated in a Taoist framework then I may feel differently, but being “fixated” in Taoism (IMO) is against its ideals anyway, so it would not make much sense. But, I don’t know if qi is an energy, feeling or anything other than a concept. The purpose it serve to me is as a name for a feeling, which can be replicated, manipulated and provides me with a positive outcome, whether it exists physically outside of me or not, I have no idea nor I see any point in speculating on it, unless a future experience tells me otherwise, but in such case I would only think so if I had evidence that it did. If someone via testing can prove that it physically exists in the world, that’s good, but I doubt it would make much difference to me, though I cant really speculate on that. So yeah, I guess testing can be a positive thing, I certainly have nothing to lose by it and potentially something to gain. The thing is though, can anyone that practices qigong tell us what qi is, (I cant) as soon as it is pinned down things become awkward. I think its like this, in Taoism, qi is simple, qi is qi, there are methods for feeling it and using it, and regardless of how ambiguous it is intellectually, it will remain so as in Taoism there is no need to intellectualize it, it just is and can be felt, used etc. As soon as we try to figure out what it is, and someone says “qi is energy”, we have to prove its existence as an energy, within the scientific framework, as the term energy resides within this scientific framework. Is there a need for this? I guess maybe there is, because if it actually is an energy, then we may gain from it, and if it isn’t, then we don’t lose anything and the qigong practitioners don’t lose anything either, as to them qi effects are still beneficial and real on a personal level. But, I guess at the end of the day it all boils down on how you personally define that which is “real”, hence all my gibberish regarding reality, frameworks and such.