Right,your hips will rotate slightly different for different shots,like in the jab shown obviously you won't get the same amount of rotation as with the straight right,but without that rotation it's just an arm shot. That is definitely were the power comes from. I've had Thaiboxing coaches tell me either to always step in and/or throw the jab in a slightly looping motion,making it an arm shot if there's no movement,but a powerful armshot as far as they go.
I think the step is key even if its only a few inches. I've never not been able to step into the jab by such a small increment in sparring but then range is typically diverent in kickboxing/Thai boxing and MMA. When you throw a jab do you turn your hips 90 degrees? Mine are certainly no more than 45 degrees. What's your opinion on the drop step/falling step lead punch?
Additionally I'd argue that the rotation on a cross is squaring the hips up to the target and pushing the energy forward in the direction of the strike. In the jab as demonstrated the hips are moved perpendicular to the target which is different and as I've understood is transferring the energy in a perpendicular direction to the strike... I wouldn't turn that much unless I was hooking. Can you link to anyone else instructing the jab in that fashion (turning hip perpendicular to opponent)?
This Geoff T teaching boxing and is simple and clear - Geoff was always a great coach [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvEzqysPg2A"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvEzqysPg2A[/ame]
Bill Wallace on lead hand jabbing - Bill obviously uses his hands to set his legs, but his jab was always fast and VERY stiff [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgPvVOX_340"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgPvVOX_340[/ame]
Another one from Bill - the first few combos use a lot of jab work, which Bill does tend to turn over more, again setting the kicks up [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdkpoEtZ5Os"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdkpoEtZ5Os[/ame]
No the stance is already more side on for boxing than thai,can't really comment on mma or kickboxing,but I think they usually are pretty square on. so the hip just moves slightly toward the target,not as much as with other shots. Like I wrote before,in boxing the punching power comes from the rotation of the hips,when you step in your hips rotate. The video was realy just a basic one,you can of course throw the jab while moving back/forward/laterally/diagonally. But first thing's first,learn to throw all the shots stationary. I think you've misunderstood his thinking re- hip movement,he's driving his hips toward his opponent by rotating straight down the middle.
HW jabs in action [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnBcGst5CI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnBcGst5CI[/ame]
The stance is certainly more square for a few reasons. Maybe I have. I might just have a play around next session to get a feel for what he is doing (I'm out due to a back issue tonight). If his hips are driving forward then fair enough as I thought he was rotating them and have perhaps misunderstood.
I'm trying to find the video that spells it out mate,basically the way he explains it is,imagine there's pole going through your head straight down while you're in your stance,it can only spin left or right,no matter which shot you're throwing you twist into your opponent. that's the basic movement,then you learn to shift your weight and drive the hips through. More so with other shots than the jab.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJIBBBQVIMw&list=PLF9F9E89BBDB0882A&index=8"]How to Box in HD - The Right Cross/Straight Right - YouTube[/ame] Here it is,obviously talking about the straight right,but the principles the same. from 1.30
Bill said it in the video I posted, but it is common among other arts (notably Tai Chi) - power does not come from the hip, it comes from the ground; the hip is a manifestation of that chain of power
I heard that,I agree to a degree,but to waste as little off that energy you need to drive and focus on fully rotating the hip imo I've seen and tried out for myself on the bag a right hand where you rotate on the front rather than central axis. It's a much more powerful shot.
That is what I call the "double hip" which I took from my Shukokai karate days [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HpsoE4CjUU"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HpsoE4CjUU[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK1feeoUGrY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK1feeoUGrY[/ame]
yeah, it's the degree of hip rotation that he shows that I'm not convinced by like I said I wouldnt go beyond 45 degrees absolute max but he seems to be going 90. I'll get back to you after I've hit the mits.
Don't forget that this is not an "either/or" situation - a jab can be used to probe, distract, setup, retreat, knockout.....the hip and body movement will vary to a greater or lesser degree depending on the desired effect
Have a look at the vid at the top mate,his explanation actually makes sense unlike my insane ramblings,also as you can see he's already in a very side on stance if you're more squared up you don't necessarily need to rotate so far. But it'll give your shot more pop if you do.
