Enshin Karate?

Discussion in 'Karate' started by Mitch, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Has anyone come across or trained in Enshin Karate, or more specifically trained here?

  2. Late for dinner

    Late for dinner Valued Member

    Enshin is a breakaway from kyokushinkai. The founder had to do the ''fight 100 black belts'' thing to honourably leave and then moved to the USA. They run the Sabaki challenge in Denver which is a full contact tourney that is open to all styles (I believe). Not sure about any schools over here in the UK.

  3. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Thanks powchoy :) I think it's essentially Kyokushin with a bit more emphasis put on evasive movement?

  4. boards

    boards Its all in the reflexes!

    Last edited: Mar 18, 2010
  5. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Gary Chamberlain posts on Iain Abernethy's forum (among others I think) and from what I know of him he's a first class martial artist. He's certainlty said some things that chime with my own thoughts (and yours too I would say).
    I think you are right in your appraisal of Enshin (which means "circle" I think?).
    They have their own set of kumite based "kata" that look really interesting.
    Lots of evasive footwork.
  6. Kurtka Jerker

    Kurtka Jerker Valued Member

    I dropped in on a connecticut school for one class before I left. Very solid guys there. I wouldn't advocate some of the takedowns I saw during that class, but I also would not want to fight the head instructor at all. They practiced on hardwood, so that may color their takedowns in relation to other Enshin schools.
  7. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    Joko Ninomiya, the founder of Enshin, actually never did a 100 man kumite. Joko won the All-Japan and then when his teacher, Hideyuki Ashihara, broke away from Kyokushin to start ashihara Karate, Joko followed. Eventually Joko was teaching in a way so different from Ashihara that he decided he needed to move on as well to protect the integrity of Ashihara and that's when he founded Enshin.
  8. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    I've spoken to Gary too on occasion and he seems like a top notch guy. Friendly, knowledgeable, and willing to sweat hard alongside his students. I'd definitely check it out. If I had a choice between Kyokushin or Enshin, I'd be changing styles.
  9. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Thanks for all the input guys :)

    I've spoken to Gary on the 'phone and he seemed like a friendly and welcoming guy, so I'm off to class tonight.

    Assuming I'm still alive I'll let you know how I get on :D

  10. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Cool....I've heard that Gary has a student that is on the verge of starting Enshin classes in York so you never know Mitch, we might end up doing the same style!
    And then what would we argue about?
  11. aaron_mag

    aaron_mag New Member Supporter

    Well he has a nice looking round kick. POW!!! Wouldn't want to get hit by it.

    Yes they run the Sabaki Challenge in Denver and they are open to all styles. I believe they are the ones, if you watch the highlight videos, like to get hold of a sleeve and then they pull down that sleeve and deliver a round kick to the head (which you can't block because your sleeve is pulled down). If you watch highlight videos you'll notice many of them have short sleeve gis
  12. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    YAY ENSHIN!!! (Sorry, grew up in Colorado, and it's got a great reputation there due to its Denver HQ)

    In Enshin, you're allowed to grab the other guy's gi to bend him over into your body punches and kicks. Basically, Enshin is like the love-child of Kyokushin and hockey.

    EDIT: The other main difference between Enshin and Kyokushin is the replacement of traditional kata with kumite-focused kata:


    EDIT 2: The Sabaki Challenge (annual Enshin tournament in Denver). The fun begins at 1:22:

    Last edited: Mar 18, 2010
  13. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Well, I have to say that pretty much rocked :D

  14. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    More details needed!!! What did your first class consist of?
  15. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    It's a small hall, a mixed class of kids and adults. It's run at a fast pace and is pretty intense, so kids and adults alternate on the floor. We did a warm up, then kihon facing a partner. Techniques were basic blocks, punches and kicks.

    We moved on to some padwork drills, a front kick into pads then depending on how far the pad holder is knocked back either grab their gi shoulder/sleeve, step round and pull the pad holder off balance and roundhouse into pads, or a similar movement but starting with a knee strike after the grab and then stepping back to deliver the roundhouse.

    The class performed some kata, which are all combinations of sparring techniques and look nothing like traditional kata, I was then asked to show a TKD pattern to the class.

    We then did a drill in threes where the central guy dealt with one attack (performed with control) trying to keep facing the third guy who was looking to move in and attack.

    We finished off with some more exercises.

    The pad/partnerwork was interesting. It seemed to stress grabbing the opponent, moving them and or yourself to get positional advantage and striking before taking them down in some way. I liked it a lot.

    All in all I was impressed. The class had a good work ethic, but was broken with occasional humour. The sensei was clear, approachable and friendly and the black belts I worked with seemed capable without being overly aggressive to a newcomer.

    They do work the "no head shots" rule, so even in the 2 on 1 drill I mentioned we were not supposed to strike to the face. I only did once or twice :whistle:

  16. Llamageddon

    Llamageddon MAP's weird cousin Supporter

    sounds solid.
  17. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    Good to hear! You'll have a blast there.
  18. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    Sounds like you've been checking up on me :D

    Just as an addendum to this, I got a phone call from Gary today asking if I was ok, had enjoyed the session, had any aches and pains etc. I think that's a nice touch on his part.

    Looks like my Thursday nights are sorted :)

  19. Kuma

    Kuma Lurking about

    Maybe a bit.

    Glad to hear, it sounds like great training. I'm a tad jealous myself.
  20. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin


    I really enjoyed it, looking forward to training there. It looks like an interesting style and I enjoyed Gary's instruction style too. If I can get out of the habit of calling him Sir rather than Sensei and get used to to shouting "os! (osu?)" at regular intervals it'll be great :D

    Last edited: Mar 19, 2010

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