Do you agree with what this instructor says in this video about ethics in martial arts??

Discussion in 'General Martial Arts Discussion' started by thegoodguy, Jun 5, 2018.

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  1. Monkey_Magic

    Monkey_Magic Well-Known Member

    It’s not just topics (e.g. forms, lineage) that have caused issues, but the tone of disagreement. Sometimes posts can come across as borderline hostile.

    I’ve no problem with people debating and disagreeing. That’s part of the point of a forum.

    I think the problem is with posts that can come across as needlessly aggressive.
     
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  2. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    WHAT DO YOU MEAN!?! :mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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  3. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Seriously really

    I know simons your student but really this is reaching and you know it
     
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  4. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    What have I declined to answer?
     
  5. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Yes. I was making arrangements to take a session at the MAP meet in the year I first joined MAP, then Simon told me to "forget it" out of the blue without explanation.

    I don't see why I should go out of my way to satisfy others' curiosity after that. It killed any interest I had in going, which presumably was Simon's intention.
     
  6. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I've never seen video of him boxing, only demonstrating boxing technique.

    If he's all about openness and sharing, why hasn't he clarified his boxing credentials yet?

    Am I MAP's biggest agenda troll, or is icefield? Enquiring minds want to know ;)
     
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  7. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    Well, no. Just being told that you're not needed for teaching a session, or that you have requirements that can't be met, or that you can't teach for some other reason most definitely isn't being disinvited from attending. I've been told fairly last minute that I'm not needed for teaching slots any more, it didn't change the fact that I could still attend the Meet and have fun.

    I've turned up to every Meet since 2005, and have only taught at (I think) 3.

    You may have had a falling out with Simon, but nothing I've seen here suggests that you were disinvited from attending a Meet at some point.
     
  8. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio


    Simon withdrew his invitation before I had a chance to say either way. He said he didn't believe I was going to attend, so he withdrew the invitation. Which doesn't seem too logical to me, but it's his event, so...

    Seems to me he never wanted me there in the first place, he obviously expected me to refuse. Withdrawing his invitation before I responded gives him the opportunity to accuse me of never having any intention of attending, and he will probably say that I'm just saying I would have because I know I won't now. Not a bad tactic. And he's right that I won't attend now, seeing as he a) couldn't make up his mind and stick to a decision, and b) was quite rude about it.

    Pathwalker Guild

    Pathwalker Guild

    I'll let others decide if that is a scheduling conflict or a disinvitation.
     
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  9. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Closed pending MOD discussion.
     
  10. Southpaw535

    Southpaw535 Well-Known Member Moderator Supporter

    Thread reopened after MOD discussion
     
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  11. Alansmurf

    Alansmurf Aspire to Inspire before you Expire Supporter

    I have read the last few pages of this thread ...

    And my unbiased view is ...

    Everyone is welcome at the MAP meets so come along learn a lot share a lot and have a bit of fun whilst training....

    Oh yeah and stop bitching at each other...lifes too short

    Smurf
     
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  12. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    I read all those posts from 2012 and it's clear that David was disinvited from teaching at the Meet, but not disinvited from attending the Meet. Big difference.

    Regardless, that was SIX YEARS ago everybody! Let's all move on.
     
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  13. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Totally agree that it is in the past, and it's not like I lost any sleep over it, but I'm not one for second chances. Life is too short to waste on people who can't play nice the first time.

    Oh, and I don't know where you get the teaching/attending distinction:

    Reads pretty clearly to me...
     
  14. bassai

    bassai onwards and upwards ! Moderator Supporter

    Then a couple of posts later he stated you were welcome to attend , now can we move on please ?
     
  15. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I moved on six years ago. Just clarifying events because Aaradia asked, and then Aegis said it didn't happen. :)
     
  16. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    I don't mod here much any more, but this issue has clearly spiralled out of all proportion, so I will get involved for old times' sake. There has been a mod instruction to move on from a controversial topic. Without instructions from Mitch to the contrary, I will start handing out temporary bans if people choose to ignore mod requests. This includes any further attempts to get the last word in.
     
  17. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    I hope you don't take this as disobeying your instruction...

    Mod add: I do. Take questions private.
     
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  18. icefield

    icefield Valued Member

    Mod edit: Breach of instruction - 7 day ban.
     
  19. Latikos

    Latikos Valued Member

    Might get a ban now too, but I am wondering: According to your own edit in Davids post, he did that too - just wondering why one got banned and not the other?
    (Nope, didn't read all of this thread, just the last couple of pages; so I might have missed the "why" here)
     
  20. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    The ban hammer is falling heavy tonight.....
     
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