Deal with back pain

Discussion in 'What Not To Do' started by daftpunk, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. daftpunk

    daftpunk Valued Member

    Hello,

    I'm looking to start a martial arts, so far I've narrowed it to JKD and I'll go see a class this week. I have some back problems, and I was wondering if you recommend one art or the other. I know about Tai Chi but that is not what I am looking for. More like fighting. My back is doing good at the moment, but I'm scared MA brings the pain back.

    Anyone had to deal with something similar?

    Thanks ! ;)
     
  2. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    I'll suggest the longfist system. The longfist daily stretching will cure your back problem. Also always wear a waist belt will be helpful.
     
  3. melbgoju

    melbgoju Valued Member

    Given this is the "what not to do" section, I would recommend taking the advice of your physio or osteo over that of anonymous people on the internet. (If you haven't talked to one, I would encourage you to do so).

    Having said that, I have personally found that martial arts practise has strengthened my back and I get fewer injuries and less pain on average when I do as a result. But that's just me, and you may be very, very different.

    So, talk to someone who knows you, knows what your problems are, and knows how to fix/manage said problems.
     
  4. Seventh

    Seventh Super Sexy Sushi Time

    Talk to a medical professional, and know your limits.
     
  5. daftpunk

    daftpunk Valued Member

    Even physio and osteo can be anonymous people on the internet ! :p

    But more seriously, I did saw one, he told me MA should be OK given my condition and he also recommended me Tai Chi, I will probably do some later this year. Thanks for the answers :)
     
  6. Gary

    Gary Vs The Irresistible Farce Supporter

    This is not good advice. Back pain is a really complex subject and can have all kinds of root issues. For example a slipped disc, a fairly common cause of back pain, can be aggravated by something as simple as a crunch which is pretty common inmartial arts conditioning.

    A good physio will give you a tailored stretching routine which is far more appropriate than a cookie cutter stretching routinely any kind.
     
  7. leftwingtaoist

    leftwingtaoist Valued Member

    I had serous back problems due to injury i picked up in the army.
    Be very careful. I would first find out exect problem. I would recommend rehabilitation exercises and pilates first to get your core muscles up the scratch, so they can support your spine. Then I would do something like taichi for good while, to build all the other stabiliser muscles so that you can go and do things like rotation and spinning without ripping yourself in half. Then after that it’s up to you.
    My taeqwando teacher used to say that whatever you do in life should improve your life. Always think that you are lucky that you can walk, not that you are unlucky because you are not martial arts world champion.
     
  8. 6footgeek

    6footgeek Meow

    what ever you start. it'll be a good idea to let your instructors know your fears and problems. do the stretches a little less than what you're comfy with, and do them a few times a day, NEVER WITHOUT WARMUP.

    picking up a light stone many times a day can sometimes be more beneficial than picking up many heavy stones once a day =D
     
  9. aiem

    aiem Valued Member

    Chiropractic therapy. I've read about it and would love to try it, but unfortunately I haven't found c. therapist in or near my area. Sports teams usually have one or two on their staff from what I've read, to keep them in their peak.
     
  10. daftpunk

    daftpunk Valued Member

    I'm not a professional, but that you must have figured, but chiropractic is awful. I did it only once and couldn't move for a week because of the pain. At first it felt good but I did only one small bad move and I was blocked. Maybe I had a bad therapist but I wouldn't give it another shot.
     
  11. slipthejab

    slipthejab Hark, a vagrant! Supporter

    Wait... so you read about it... and now you're recommending it in a "what not do" thread?!:eek:
     
  12. aiem

    aiem Valued Member

    Daftpunk, I wonder if you could share what kind of chiropractic therapy you used? I'm still pretty interested and I would like to experience it for myself. I had a serious accident a year ago with a bad kokyunage and while the pain had disappeared after a few months, I still want to try something beneficial for it (neck and back).

    Slipthejab, there are a lot of recommendations in this thread as well as "what-not-to-do's," so what's the problem?
     
  13. seiken steve

    seiken steve golden member

    You don't know what the problem is, how can you honestly say that?

    OP we can't say anything without more info, if your physio and your instructor are cool with it then it could be fine, display caution however...
     
  14. TripleNut

    TripleNut Valued Member

    Be interested to know exactly what this is. I get back problems and a little bit extra of the right type of stretching would work for me but it's got to be right.
     
  15. Saved_in_Blood

    Saved_in_Blood Valued Member

    I take about 6-8 grams of MSM a day. The pure stuff, not cheap store bought. It definitely helps with inflammation.
     
  16. bodyshot

    bodyshot Brown Belt Zanshin Karate

    Hey I get back pain as well, andI wasnt reallysure why I was getting it until I read this thread and heard that doing to much abs can cause back pain, well I was training abs like every day, so I did some research and found some intresting exorcizes that can help strengthen my back and stretch it, good thread.
     
  17. Saved_in_Blood

    Saved_in_Blood Valued Member

    Back pain is a terrible thing. Right now i've gotten away from all OTC medicine and i'm using just 6-8 grams of MSM a day and an inversion table 3 times a day for 2 minutes at a time. It's been getting better. I know I have buldging discs though, so getting that space inbetween the discs to get some blood flow and such helps a lot.
     
  18. nikolilou

    nikolilou New Member

    It's hard moments when back is painful. I never know how to deal with it. :(
     
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  19. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    Hey dude, welcome to the forums! Might wanna check the posting dates when replying to older threads, this particular discussion's been inactive for four years now :)

    It's a bit hard to see in the new layout, but you can check the date at the bottom of each post; it's generally considered preferable to start new ones rather than post in ones that haven't been active for a fair while (say, a week or two for small casual threads, maybe a few months for bigger general threads where new relevant info can take a while to pop up, such as news articles, personal updates, etc).

    Do tell us a bit about your back pain, though, maybe we can help :)
     
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  20. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    I used to have lower back pain. I have not had any lower back pain for the past 10 years. I think the following training had helped me to solve my problem.

    1. General warm up:

    - Swing waist left and right.
    - Bend body forward.
    - Bend body backward.
    - Rotate waist left and right.

    2. Static stretching:

    - Put leg on chest high, hold opposite hand on the toes, touch head on the leg.
    - Stand in golden rooster stance. Use both hand to pull upper leg to touch chest.
    - Stand on one leg. Hold other leg back up in the air. Use opposite hand to hold on rooting leg ankle.
    - Do one leg forward and one leg backward floor split.
    - Do both legs sideway floor split.

    3. Dynamic stretching:

    - Inside crescent kick.
    - Outside crescent kick.
    - Swing leg straight up over the head and touch the hand above the head.
    - Swing leg back up.
    - Lay down on the ground. Repeat 1 leg outside crescent kick and 1 leg inside crescent kick.
     
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