Daughter needs help.

OK...I'm back in.

You see...you are also making assumptions, reading (incorrectly) between the lines and putting motivation in place where there isn't any.

For example my point about "her training schedule is just too much on top of that". You've jumped on the "training schedule part" when the important part is the "on top of that" part. In other words it's perhaps not a problem with the training schedule per se but a problem of the training schedule "on top" of being 12 years old AND hyper-mobile.
My daughter is hyper-mobile (she's 8). She has needed shoe inserts because her feet are soft and flat, which brings her knees in and throws out her other joints.
She wakes up in the night with painful legs from just running around at school during a normal day, let alone wrestling 5 days a week and then doing S&C afterwards.
She does dance classes and taekwondo and managing how much she does physically is tricky. Some days she's fine and other days she seems to have a growth spurt and her legs hurt her every night for no real reason. As her body grows I know it will need managing.

As I said before...good luck with the future.

 

You know, essentially the only thing every one here said was: Let your daughter rest.

And yet you, somehow, make the thread about you yourself (how everybody is attacking you, calling you out, claiming things about you, ...) and nearly you alone.
For a thread that is supposed to help your daughter, you make it an awful lot about you.

So, now you have something to complain about.

 

My post went funny!

12 weeks is a pretty standard timescale to start improving after injury, as your daughter may be hypermobile, 12 weeks is actually pretty good going.

In regards to over training, if she's training as much as you say online, it's a define risk, so obviously any half decent coach knows that needs addressing.

Thats why kids coaching is so hard, it's so very important not to treat kids like little adults, injuries in childhood can cripple someone's athletic potential as an adult.

"Morigan has been busting her butt at practice, training as many as 4-5 days a week. Wrestling at multiple clubs and upping her game with a grueling strength training regiment every day after practice.....

Since then she has buckled down hard in her focus, and added much more emphasis to strength training then she ever has before."

Morigan "Black Widow" Kiernan's blog!: The Black Widow needs help!

 

So hang on...I ask if this kid might be training too much for her age and condition to properly recover and her dad loses it because I'm profiling him and I'm prejudiced?
And then it transpires she IS training 5 days a week, at multiple wrestling clubs and then doing a "grueling strength training regiment" everyday? And boxing? And cross-fit?
The sort of schedule professional MMA athletes do for 8 weeks in a camp? And most are nursing short and long term injuries because of it?

If you're going to get righteously indignant about something someone has assumed it really helps your case if they aren't actually right in that assumption! Hahaha.

 

And also...really annoys me when people mix up the words regime, regimen and regiment.

 

Also her Facebook fan page has her competing and training right at the end of November.

So your timescale is off, end of November injury, 4 weeks off is end of December, 8 weeks treatment leads us to today, and in that time you quit physio and took her to chiro and massage instead.

 

I echo everyone’s suggestion that this girl needs more rest and recovery. Also, in between all this training, how much time does she have to play and just be a kid?

It’s better to under train than over train, especially as a child.

I can’t be the only person reading this thread and concerned about the girl’s likelihood of burnout or long-term injuries.

 

Some thoughts on this, which I feel somewhat qualified to offer being father of three daughters who have all trained to a greater or lesser extent in Kung Fu and taiji.
1. Although a child may share your interest (in whatever MA/sport/hobby they may also be trying to please their parent.
2.Theres a fine line to tread between encouragement and coercion - the latter invariably does more harm than good.
3.Sacrifices usually need to be made to find time to compete, once you move into the teens there are multiple other interests,schoolwork,friends etc.
4. Resist the temptation to pass on your own corrections or suggestions when there is someone more qualified (and objective) already doing it.


My youngest I would, as a layman describe as hyperflexible. She could easily kick over her head, kindling her leg without turning.
She began experiencing jarring pains and sore back and was eventually found to have tight hamstrings which meant keeping a straight back and being stood up for lengthy periods was very uncomfortable. She was also diagnosed with chronic pain - basically the nervous system is damaged and sends out amplified pain signals.
She had a two week physio course in hospital and ongoing exercises but at her age it's a case of wait and hope as her body changes.
She no longer trains but may pick it up again in which case it'll be her choice.

(n.b these are just my observations and not directed at the OP as such)

 

There is no point even talking to combatcsport. he has always argued and refuses to talk the advice he asks for. Your child is a child, let them have a break and a drill less intensely.

She can either be the best 12 year old wreslter who's broken by 20 or the best 20 year old who regulated their training better.

 

Try acupuncture or German new medicine

 

Ryke Geerd Hamer - Wikipedia

"
Ryke Geerd Hamer (17 May 1935 in Mettmann, Germany – 2 July 2017 [1]), a German physician, was the originator of Germanic New Medicine, also formerly known as German New Medicine and New Medicine, a system of pseudo-medicine that purports to be able to cure cancer.[2] The Swiss Cancer League described Hamer's approach as "dangerous, especially as it lulls the patients into a false sense of security, so that they are deprived of other effective treatments."[2]

Hamer held a licence to practice medicine from 1963 until 1986, when it was revoked for malpractice. Hamer's system came to public attention in 1995, when the parents of a child suffering from cancer refused medical treatment in favour of Hamer's methods. Hamer was charged with malpractice and convicted in several European countries.

Hamer claimed that his method is a "Germanic" alternative to mainstream clinical medicine, which he claimed is part of a Jewish conspiracy to decimate non-Jews"


"
The Swiss Cancer League of the Swiss Society for Oncology, Swiss Society for Medical Oncology and Swiss Institute for Applied Cancer Research say that no case of a cancer cure by Hamer has been published in the medical literature, nor any studies in specialised journals. Reports in his books "lack the additional data that are essential for medical assessment" and the presentations of his investigations, at medical conferences "are scientifically unconvincing".[2]

Also. the German Cancer Research Center,[20]the German Cancer Society,[21] the German Medical Association and German Consumer Councils[22] strongly disagree with Hamer.

Proponents of alternative cancer treaments also regard his theory skeptically and argue for supportive evidence and proven patient cases.[23]

Hamer's habilitation thesis about the GNM at the University of Tübingen was rejected after multiple examinations by several members of the medical faculty, who came to the conclusion that his work lacks scientific methods and reproducibility and his arguments do not back up his theories.[24]

Hamer said that his system is verifiable and that the University of Trnava and others have already confirmed some of his theories.[3] In fact, the University of Trnava has no real medical faculty and the documents which allegedly confirm his view are not available and registered at the university.[25][26] The Trnava University also rejected his habilitationthesis.[27]

The Hamer foci that Hamer saw in the brain CTs are identified by radiologists as common ring artifacts.[28][29]

The medical establishment in Germany and the European Union warns of the threat posed to patients by Hamer's therapies. If effective treatment is neglected, the applying of Hamer's theories is punishable in some countries as malpractice.[2]

There are ongoing press reports of victims of Hamer's practice throughout europe"

Quakery of the highest order.

 

I dont want to read that, you think medicine saves every patient ?

 

If your not willing to read facts, then you shouldn't be giving advice.

Medicine doesn't save every patient of course, (everyone dies eventually of something) but the reverse of course isn't true, no medicine will save 0 extra people, and in all likily hood will increase the death rate. So given the choice between proven treatments which have passed double blind trials, and quackery provided by a proven liar, the choice is simple.

Also what about this section

"
Hamer claimed that his method is a "Germanic" alternative to mainstream clinical medicine, which he claimed is part of a Jewish conspiracy to decimate non-Jews"
"

What part of that seems reasonable to you?

 

Who say is facts ? I jus tell him.. try other things
Of course there is a conspiracy, you are not well informed or u dont want to believe it