creationist creeping on kids' video games

I'm not presuming Apple has anything to do with it, but I do presume that they have the power to kick advertisers off iOS apps.

Aiming ads at adults is one thing (still strikes me as weird though... you would've thought an omnipotent being could handle their own publicity), but aiming religious ads at children is pretty evil.

Would you be cool with fundamentalist Muslim groups or white nationalists paying for ads in kids' games? How about petrochemical lobbyists making ads to brainwash kids into climate change denial?

 

ah i see. you don't know that cosmos was in fact on tv both during the 70's and last year. you really must not watch any television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVo6cgCEMDk

that's just one episode. you can find them all on youtube.

 

That's your job man. This won't be the first or last time they'll be exposed to nonsense.
Guide them. Teach them critical thinking skills. Teach them everyone has an agenda and biases, even you and them. Show them the evidence for and against. Show them just how many religions there are that all claim to be true with pretty much the same level of evidence (or lack of evidence).

My kids go (or will go) to a Church of England school and get taught or exposed to all sorts of stuff I don't agree with or is flat out wrong. Not just religious stuff either. My daughter was taught that you can see the great wall of China from the moon. So then we have to counter that with proper thinking.
Even in my family I have relatives that spout all sorts of superstitious nonsense. Don't stir with a knife, don't open an umbrella indoors, do this and that for good or bad luck.
It all needs looking at and countering.

Quite honestly learning that other people are full of it, and often out to hoodwink them, is a major life lesson that you can't or don't want to avoid. Get that lesson in early.

 

yes smitfire. like i said, i muffed the response, because it was very upsetting and unsettling to see that. i need to do better, but i have to start with him (the boy) learning critical thinking skills.

 

Well, that is the moment, where the parents come into play, isn't it?

YOu noticed what add there was, so you could try and talk to your kid.
If parents just give their little kids a tablet in the hand and don't care what is goind on on it, it's not the add-people fault but that of the parent.

No matter what sort of add.
If you don't like religions/ a certain religion, I expect that parents to work through that with their kids.

We have at times commercials with s**-toys on the TV, during the day.
I hate it, because kids shouldn't see that, no matter how it's done.
But in case they would, it would be work as a parent, to explain to them, what that was about (if they'd get it might be about this subject); and if it's only that I say "toy for grown-ups".


EDIT: Once I answer without reading to the and, because I thought it weird, that no one would say something to it, and now I see, that the post right after I stopped reading actually addresses that as well :-|

 

Sex toys are embarrassing to adults, but again, not a deliberate and malicious attempt to mislead children. Answers in Genesis bears responsibility for that.

 

You're trying to flatten the debate out into two arbitrary positions; they aren't unless you think that truth and falsehood are the same thing. If you're OK with people lying to children then you've got a very strange morality.

 

Yeah, I don't agree with any advertising aimed at children actually. However, in the UK there are laws against saying that junk food is healthy. You can't lie about a product or service... unless it's a religion.

I would happily contribute to a crowd-funded Satanist kids advert on iOS apps. I think they've been great at pointing out the hypocrisy of freedom of religion in America.

You've lost me there...

You don't believe in "us and them", but you see preying on the minds of children as a battle between you and everyone else?

How about we just stop trying to drag kids into it?

Also: what Philo said.

 

Nope, claiming that there is irreducible complexity in the flagella is factually false. Doing so in order to persuade children to join your religion is lying to them. Would I consider this as bad as advertising cigarettes to children? No. Is it still repugnant? Yup. Science and scientific knowledge is not a religious position. I've known Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Pagan, atheistic and Christian scientists. That universality is one of science's strengths. The science for evolution and the lack of evidence for intelligent design are both apparent; we should not tell our children otherwise.

 

so i don't nor will indoctrinate my children with abrahamic religion doctrine. how else should i see an ad for an abrahamic religion, other than a lie?

 

What makes you think it is malicious or a "deliberate attempt to mislead"?

 

You're forgetting the important part: we're talking about children.

Also, I think you may be misunderstanding the difference in quality of belief between Hannibal, Aaradia, and the god squad. I'm pretty sure they are aware of the age and nature of their beliefs, and are under no allusions that Odin or Hera or whoever are literally in the clouds looking down on them.

 

That's why I don't really have a problem with the Islamic one. AiG wants to put out a video talking about the divinity of Christ or the ethical example that he sets, I'd say that's fair play. This is just gross. Intelligent design is simply aimed at muddying the waters, repeating disproven claims, all in an effort to discredit science and scientists.

Long observation of Answers in Genesis, this is the group headed by Ken Ham.

 

At some point somebody with half a clue about biology decided to misrepresent the facts to prop up an unfounded belief.

Most will simply be ignorant, but there has to be maliciousness in the chain somewhere.

 

I love how the infallible spokesperson of God can reverse the standpoints of previous infallible spokespersons of God!

 

Here's a great video of Ken Miller talking about the bacterial flagellum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_HVrjKcvrU

He's also a Christian! Worth noting that the trial he's discussing was in 2005.