Chiropratic = crap

Discussion in 'Injuries and Prevention' started by yannick35, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Chiropratic = crap

    Well i guess that after a year and a half of spending money from one idiot to is other idiot friend i learn my lesson.

    Some are good some are bad but the ultimate truth is that once you start chiropratic you always have to go back, you feel good for a few days then the pain comes back.

    I have been seeing this new chiro for 3 months now, the other one hit a wall with me and i put him on the spot after a year of not really feeling better.

    Last week i put this new one on the spot has well, i am all set for an MRI tomorrow at noon, after 3 months of going to see him i have minimal results, yesterday i changed a flat tire on my car and ended up torking it a bit to much, the pain came back on the same side.

    I am going to a sport doctor April 18th and will soon dump chiropratic, funny that the same excuse comes back each time, well we have to find out what your problem is.

    Also it took everything for that idiot to send me to an MRI.
  2. Topher

    Topher allo!

    I wonder why...

    Let us know how the MRI goes.
  3. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Sure thing this one is for the lower back, after i finish paying that 650$ off i might also get one for the upper back.

    I really hope that everything is fine, at least on the x rays there was no degeneration showing, no arthritis and all my disk where pertty well spaced.

    The mri will show a lot more, muscles and ligaments where i am sure that is where the real problem lies.
  4. Topher

    Topher allo!

    Which is probably why he didn't want to send you to one.
  5. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Well last time i spoke to him he told me not to go to the sport doctor and to have confidence in him.

    GRRRRR i am really mad right now.
  6. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    lawsuit maybe? that stinks of malpractice, although sadly it's terribly rampant in this particular way.
  7. CosmicFish

    CosmicFish Aleprechaunist

    He would say that, he wants your cash! I wouldn't even bother getting angry. Just go ahead with your original plan and try out this sports doctor.

    Best of luck!
  8. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Now if sport medecin doenst work

    I really have no choice to end this life, to be honest its been hard for the seven years and my life is boring.

    I am not a couch patatoe but am reduce to being one because of injury.

    I am trying to understand what the problem is, my chiro says to stop searching so hard for an answer, and that my spin is beautiful and all but that idiot cannot fix me either along all the ones i seen before.

    I really hope that the sport doctor will be able to find the problem, with an MRI coming up tomorrow and maybe another one of my neck upper back that will be easier to pine point the problem.

    I dont know if there are ways to strenghen ligaments that are weak on one side of the body, and how i can train my pelvic to stop desaligning itself.

    Even the core exercise hurt after a while, and the pain isnt getting any better, so what else could it be if there is no degeneration, no arthritis ? when i put heat i feel amazing relief.

    Yaggg what a cursed life
  9. lil_kazie

    lil_kazie Valued Member

    yannick35 - maybe you need to wrap yourself in cotton wool or bubblewrap for a while.
    if your pelvic is misaligning itself so easily - seems like the muscles are too tight maybe and isnt holding your thing in place properly after the adjustments. my osteo said i could get treatment from a chiro but the improvements and results would be take twice as long. shrug i dont know.

    just going from my experience when my back was in a bad way - it used misalign itself by just sitting in a chair for too long, or when i was walking to the toliets. i didnt do pilates until stablised a bit. dont push urself during the core excerises.... take it easy.. concentrate on your breathing "scoop that stomach!" make sure your tailbone is on the ground! and ur not twisting ur pelvis so it keeps in the neutral position

    if it hurts - stop

    yeah keep using heat packs and such
  10. CKava

    CKava Just one more thing... Supporter

    A sport physio will be able to tell you what you need to do to strengthen the relevant problem parts and then it will be down to you putting the effort in to get it fixed.

    I also think you need to try thinking about things more critically rather than just constantly declaring people idiots after singing their praises only a few weeks before.

    30th Nov 2007- Originally you were calling a physio an idiot because your original chiropractor disagreed with his diagnosis based on 'X-Rays'. People pointed out that X Rays require interpretation and that you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss physios. But you responded that you had faith in your chiropractor and he was different from the previous two you had seen who were idiots who just wanted money.

    9th Dec 2007- You repeated this story claiming it happened a month later in a new thread in which you extolled the wonders of your chiropractor and the stupidity of the physio (unless the exact same event just happened again). At the end of the new thread you explained how you now had doubts about your present chiropractor's treatement and he had referred you to another new chiropractor.

    5th Jan - Reported back that you were happy with your new chiro who had better techniques and was going to take X-Rays and maybe send you for an MRI.

    10th Jan - Say your going to visit an osteopath the following week.

    13th Jan - New X-Rays, new diagnosis from new Chiro.

    18th Jan - Ask for advice on Pelvic & Back Problems. Get advised to work your core.

    20th Jan - A physio in a thread mentions that the account you provided sounds like natural scoliosis and that spinal manipualtions wont prevent this. This concurs with what the 'idiot' physio told you months ago but you say your X-Rays interpreted by the chiro prove thats not the case.

    2nd Feb- Found swiss ball and ask for advice on exercises.

    3rd Feb- Buy bigger swiss ball.

    4th Feb- Asking about "radial shockwave therapy" and say you have done lots of core strengthening (it's been at most 2 weeks since you started doing those).

    5th Feb- Getting an MRI for your new chiro to read. Physio suggests you get an orthopedic surgeon to look at it instead.

    11th Feb- MRI postponed. Reporting back good results with core exercises. No need so your chiropractor says for pelvic readjustment.

    15th Feb- Feeling better after exercises and singing praise of chriopractor. Still no need for pelvic readjustment.

    24th Feb- Chiro said you needed realignment. Started using electrical thing to stimulate abs. You also mention in this thread that the previous two chiropractors really made a difference to your pain and condition. Get some more exercise advice.

    1st Apr- Getting MRI. Calling chiropractors idiots and now going to a sport doctor on the 18th Apr.

    The point of this is why I think you are now taking the sensible option people have been suggesting that since your initial post almost half a year ago. Also while I do have sympathy for your pain it doesn't sound like it's as serious a problem as you make it out in your mind. Maybe I'll be wrong when you get the results of the MRI but I suspect it's more a case that you're letting a problem dominate your life and getting depressed about it rather than really allowing yourself to get past it.

    Go see a reputable sports specialist and if it turns out you don't have any serious physical issues then the chances are that it's only going to go away with exercise and when your attitude improves. I know you have found various issues with your back but I somewhat suspect that if I had spent the amount of time you had with various kooky specialists I would have a whole host of diagnosed problerms as well. Most people have have clicking noises in joint and uncomfortable mystery pains that come and go but that's just part of the human condition and can be alleviated by exercise and a good diet. I really honestly think just exercising and being more positive is going to end up helping you more than any of the random treatments.

    Still I might be wrong so just listen to the sport therapist you go see and I really do hope you get the problem solved.

    Also, don't be ridiciulous and suggest killing yourself over back problems- look at someone like Stephen Hawkins and ask if your condiiton really is that bad?
  11. inthespirit

    inthespirit ignant

    Yannick, you ever thought of taking up Taiji or some other similar martial art (Yiquan, Xing Yi Quan, Ba Gua Zhang, Ziranmen), a major aspect of these arts is correct alignment and tension/relaxation balance, which seems to me like the source of much of your trouble. Furthermore, all this will be controlled by you not some guy in a white coat. If you have a good teacher you can fix all sorts of problems, I've seen people rehabilitate themselves with these methods for all sorts of stuff like hip surgery, major spinal injury, curvature of the spine and all a host of other problems stemming from postural and muscular imbalances. If you take this up, you can at once train a martial art and work on your problems, kill two birds with one stone so to speak. Anyway, if your interested, let us know where you are and I'll see if I can find a good teacher for you, far too many snake oil sellers in this business unfortunatelly, but fortunately there are some good teacher too.
  12. rtkd-badger

    rtkd-badger Fundimentaly Manipulated

    You should have gone to your GP, and asked them to refer you for a MRI in the first instance.
    Chiropractors have there place, but without all the information they have to work blind.
    For example, I have had work done on me for at least the last 10 years, in the end, and after a MRI it showed that I had short Pedicals and no matter what the Chiro did, it would have done Jack. They can't see that. It's not their fault.
    I don't know but in Australia, a Chiro can't request a MRI, it has to be done by a Doctor.

    Become more proactiv
  13. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Thanks everyone

    Sorry for being a bit of a dick sometimes but frustration gets true me.

    Ok i got my MRI and a cd with the images, well i am far from being an expert so i guess i will have to wait for the real report to come out.

    Has planed April 18th i am going to a sport doctor.

    Kava to make things clear yes they are jerks because most of the time they give ******** diagnostics without proof like the physio who told me i had a scolosis.

    My other chiro instead of telling me he could not adjust a particular vertebrae kept on going until i told him there was a problem.

    Now my current chiro tells me not to go elsewhere, i almost had to tear of is arm for him to send me for that MRI, it might have cost me 650$ but at least now i will know where i stand and on an MRI you see everything.

    I am glad to say that this MRI covers the pelvic region from the back and up to my middle back so i have a very good view of what is going on in there.

    I dont really care what my current chiro tells me, from where i stand he cannot help me anymore and i will need to see where the sport doctor refers me too.

    This time around i did a lot of reseach on the sport clinic and got a lot of amazing reviews.

    Check out the link.

    What i expect from a professional is that he tells me the right time of day, and when i can no longer do anything for me he just has to say it.

    I mean this chiro is 80$ per week for two adjustments a week, now that i got mad he changed that to once per week, what can a chiro do for ligaments and muscles not much.

    Plus its taking forever to see results.:bang::bang::bang:
  14. Brian R. VanCis

    Brian R. VanCis Valued Member

    Spine issues are no fun at all. Here is hoping that the MRI shows something and that a good doctor can help you out.
  15. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Ok so i just got back from the chiro and had my x ray reviews.

    Since he refered me for my MRI he also had the results with him and gave me a copy.

    I am 35 years old, the MRI came back negative.

    I have the normal wear and tear of a 35 year old.

    L1,L2,L3 and L4 are normal

    L4 L5 have minimal reduction in disk size

    L5 and S1 have normal thinning and a small pinching.

    No disk hernia was found and no compression either.

    The ligaments are all fine has are the muscles of the lower and middle back.


    THe chiro gave me 3 exercise to do and 6 weeks of treatments 1 time per week.

    I kept my rendez vous for the sport doctor April 18th and will find out what he says about all this.

    I know i payed 650$ for this and for many people that is a lot of money but i dont regret anything and feel that i should have gone a long time ago.

    At least 650$ to know that my spin is in good health is not that much money to pay for this.
  16. Stevebjj

    Stevebjj Grappling Dummy

    Dude. MRI negative is terrific news! Congrats. Keep the appointment with the sports doc, and if you're still having problems, consider a short period of time with a PT.
  17. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    You are right it is a good thing but now i have to find the reason why the pain does come back.

    I really hope i am not part of the people that have back pains that no one can understand nor find the cause.
  18. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    Well i went for my evaluation and he told me that everything was on the right track.

    He then gave me 6 weeks of treatments once a week and then said we would re-evaluate.

    Today i went to work i had some cleaning up to do at the job in our lab room.

    I lifted some light montiors and the pain in my neck came back.

    I did a couple of kicks and my snapping hip joint is worst then ever, the sound it makes is worst.

    So the execises he gave me are crap and he is crap to.

    He didnt want me to go to the sport clinic well now he can shove all of this up is harssss and i am going to that place
  19. Gufbal1981

    Gufbal1981 waiting to train...

    Ok, first off, you have a really bad chiro. A good one with integrity is going to encourage you to go to physical therapy in conjunction with chiropractic treatment. However, I didn't read the first page of this, but have you considered a TCM doctor? TCM and PT go hand and hand, if you get a really good TCM doctor that does Tui Na massage, he or she can help with your snapping hip joint.
  20. yannick35

    yannick35 Banned Banned

    I want to get prolotherapy for the snapping hip joint and if possible the lower back pain issue has well.

    I have read that people recover 100% after prolotherapy and can continue with the activity they love to do after.

    The sport clinic where i am going has every techics except chiropratic, they say they just dont beleive in it and it takes to long to heal a person using it.

    I have to agree with them, i did see results with chiropratic but now they are stock.

    Here in Canada its a war between chiro and other therapy, why is it that a doctor will refer someone to an osteopath but never to a chiroprator.

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