Chi explained

I can do that too.
The trick is to make your skin slightly sticky and to try to 'cup' your body around what you've stuck to yourself.

Hold the screws on a piece of paper and push that against your skin. The screws won't stick.

 

such a massive understanding you have

 

The first thing to understand about Chi is that it is an absolutely normal
and natural phenomenon. There are many manifestations of it that occur that
we are consciously aware of but many many more which are just auto pilot
functions. Basically every function within our body is driven by it.
This is all done with our unconscious mind, driven by our genetic
programming. The training within Tai-Chi Chuan is to make the links to our
frontal lobe so we can use (control) it with our conscious mind, the vehicle
for this is known by the Chinese as Yi and in English as will power or
intent. As with all things this direction can have both a yin or a yang
motivation for example water or fire training.

To begin with you must train yourself to follow your unconscious before you
can link into any conscious mode, so just *do* don't think. So don't
expect anything or just because maybe someone you know gets some sort of
reaction don't think you are wrong not to get it, say for example during ZZ
a fellow student is bouncing up and down or vibrating and you don't, you
think what is wrong with me, he is better than me etc, WRONG he has got
trapped into a reaction due to it happening once or seeing someone else
doing it so it has started with him and now whenever his Chi is activated
his mind says bounce so his Yi makes his Chi bounce. The only really natural
reaction, but even then has mind content, is heat, if you expect you get,
but it is not *words*, think the words and you don't get, you are activating
your Yi without it being fully under your control. In time after all blocks
are removed, and they can be physical, mental or emotional, which is why
time varies according to the individual, anything from 5 years to never to
start to get it, the links are in and you will start to use and control, and
then you can enjoy the *Megin or Galdar* (the old Celtic and Norse words
for it). But remember you cannot think of nothing ) the best thing to do
is try and remove yourself from your conscious thoughts and step aside and
just observe them, don't hold thoughts let them come and go and try to
achieve as much stillness and quiet as possible, work on creating you centre
as a place of peace to turn to, then make sure your centre has a root to the
planet. You can only learn to work with Chi by having it done to you, you cannot
intellectualise it. Initially you must be guided by the teaching hand of
someone who has the control, in order to *show* you your power, over and
over again until the paths start to forge. Firstly leaning to move and use
your own and then interacting it with others.

 

Why do people have such difficulty understanding it. A simple analogy, you
run the New York Metro, you understand the mechanics, you understand the
computers and signalling, but you have no understanding of electricity.
Obviously incomplete knowledge. Until you try to understand and work with
the bodies "electricity" (Chi) then you ain't got it. Stop thinking of it as
mysticism and think of it as electricity and then the understanding feeds
in. The same as electrical potential can be felt and is felt like a magnetic
buzz so you can feel Chi potential. The same as electricity can overcome
gaps between physical structures so can Chi. Electricity drives motors to do
work, Chi drives muscles to do work. The only difference with empty force (I
hate the expression but I will use it) is that it is at the far end of the
physical / chi equation, as lightening and plasma balls are at the far end
of physical / electricity equation. Electricity or electrical potential
works without physical presence in nature:- lightening, plasma balls,
static, you just need a small enough gap, a low enough resistance path, and
a high enough potential difference. The same applies to Chi but in a
different way that is hard to explain. The same as electricity has to create
a "path" to perform so has Chi. Electrical potential difference needs to
travel through a low resistance path such as copper wires, with using Chi
maybe the meridians provide the low resistance path. It is easier and
therefore there is less resistance if your are in contact with the
recipient, you then create the potential difference with your mind (Yi) and
the Chi will flow. Lose contact and you need far greater potential
difference (Chi power) to bridge the gap, but with training it is possible.

Chi for me is the energy that IS life and exist in ALL living things. The
joker in the pack is the brain and how it influences, does a tree have a
brain? not in our sense, but it does have Chi, and that Chi follows its
purpose as if there were an "intelligence" of sorts organising it (the laws
of nature?). Animal Chi can be directed to work externally without physical
presence, animals use it to communicate, where as we use intellect. Animals
use physical and Chi energy to dominate, we use physical and intellectual
power. Remove most of our frontal lobe and then instinct and Chi
would have to take over. You have been trained in most aspects of life
school, work etc by and using your intellect (frontal lobe), to find Chi you
have to still this intellectual chatter, and think at angles until thought
becomes unnecessary (or totally still all thought through meditation) what's
left is Chi and especially it's purest incarnation Shen shining like the
proverbial light in the darkness.

This does not mean I think Chi is electricity. It is an analogy.

 

120 V throws you, 220 V glues you.

 

Sorry wrong, AC throws you DC glues you.

 

Why, thank you.

Did you try it?
I find it's useful, that when I'm fiddling with electrical items that I can pick up very small screws for a short time by pressing on them with my hand.
Mind you I wouldn't say it was that huge an advantage.

 

Ups sorry tx.

 

no you see, what i did was absorbing statical electricity in my hand which made it slightly magnetic. Then it stuck somewhat any part of my hand. And without making my hand sticky or curling up. The advantage comes from being able to do that.

Like catching flies with chopsticks in the old days would signal a great skill in japan. Catching flies which chopsticks is equally useless, but the skill to do it is very much usefull. But anyway, i see your point, im probably just talking nonsence lying my ass of. enjoy old years eve.

But i could always bore you with other examples of my experiences with Qi, or.. nahh, i guess i wouldn't even wanna. Please be my guest and be bound.

 

You realize this comes from The Karate Kid, right? Please, can't we hold ourselves to a slightly higher standard of historical veracity than this?

Getting stuff to stick to you whether by static electricity or glue is not qigong. Even if qi is related to electricity the goal is not to somehow turn your body into an electromagnet.

 

You are terribly right, but i had to use something, my knowledge on history is at the moment lacking, but i hope to catch on in the future. But it was meant to get the point across, if that's achieved than im happy.

I know it's not Qi GOng, but it was just for me, an experiment at the time. To see what the 'mind' can do or whatever. And it does teach you control and manipulating. It's not Qi Gong, you're right. I've only done it once, along with some other things and now i ended up here, because for me Yoga had some things in it which did not really work as of yet for me. But that's another story.

 

You do know static electricity doesn't move right?
And it's a flow of electricity that generaters magnetic fields, not static electricity.

You obviously didn't try doing it with a peice of paper between you and the screw.

 

then i perhaps defined the feeling wrong.

Nope I didn't.

 

Maybe you should.

 

...this thread is as about as much use as a one legged man in an **** kicking contest.....get a grip guys......just make sure your insulated first.

 

LOL!

Onyomi - that's too funny. I feel your exasperation!

If only instead of Qi we had a buck for everytime a silly thread about it came up... then we'd be laughing all the way to the bank!

 

I used to be magnetic. The government kept me locked away in a perspex home suspended in a great space, with no metallic objects around. I only escaped because my shapeshifting accomplice injected enough metal into one of the guards bodies for me to pull it out through his skin using my powers.... Oh wait, maybe that wasn't me.

 

Mind over Matter - What is Qi (energy)?

Today I thinked about energy (Qi) and I reminded this thread.
What Qi is? I don't know.

It is not electricity, it is not a megnetic field, but has an inpact on them.
Qi can be moved by people minds, so there is present the power of (counscious) mind. Can be Qi only a consequence of the mind (mind over matter)?
If the mind (energy) is involved to move the body (matter) then Qi is a quantum phenomenon!

Few days ago I did a test of the "unbendable arm" with my girfried. I told her how to do and she succeed the first time! I tell her that this is the power of energy (Qi) and she replied "Yes this is the power of the mind!". I was shocked, her answer opened my eyes.
So, Qi is only an illusion. Qi manipulation is only a consequence of the mind activity!

If we know that:
=> Qi is manipulated by out (counscious) mind.
=> Qi is an "illusion" and visible are only "Qi's" consequences.
=> Our "subconscious mind" we are able to communicate with and influence the photon (Quantum energy).
then we can conclude that:
=> Our (counscious) mind through our "subconscious mind" affect the photons (energy) that results in body/world (matter) changes.

More powerfull is the mind, better is the comunication and more accurate is the intention, greather are the results!
The best results can be achived in our body (ideal comunication). The distance "ideally" is not important, however the problem is that with the distance decrease our accuracy of our intention and maybe could be obstacles or interferences with the comunication.

People can practise to influence the energy (make this thin changes in the physical world) and also to sense the energy (perceive this thin changes in the physical world).
The answer is in our mind! However to make that "imagination become reality" we must establish the proper "intent" (use of the mind) and "communications" (use of the structure, i.e. body structure).

Any opinions?

 

iow Yi (mind) leads Qi (energy) leads Li (physicality)?
also I have been told before: "There is no qi without yi"
:Angel:

 

nevermind .