Bridging with man sao.

Discussion in 'Jeet Kune Do' started by KaliKuntaw, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. KaliKuntaw

    KaliKuntaw Valued Member

    I have been practicing using biu jee to to get a connection and laap sao or whatever to follow up. When i talk to some jkd folks, if they know what I'm talking about, i get mixed opinions. Some prefer the more pugilist method of a "running hand jab".
    and some just like to skip all of the WC and use the fma method of destructions etc.
    After trying many ways, i dig the man sao theory a bit more.
    What do you think?
     
  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    Conceptually Man Sao is almost "looking" for the trap - Assuming you biu jee is thrown with intent to hit there is nothing fundementally wrong with finding a trap out of it as it is sort of on the PIA side of the fence, but is putting in a passive step where one is not needed IMO.

    I always look to hit - without exception and will trap only when the hit is prevented.

    However, there is something to be said for "sukering" them in - man sao can certianly do that. I used to teach a variant whereby you use a "hack" entry (angle #2) to draw the block and then flow from there - this was more panantukan than wing chun, but the principle is almost identical
     
  3. KaliKuntaw

    KaliKuntaw Valued Member

    Yes the hack is often successful in sparring "boxers" for me.
    I use the biu jee or whatever generic man sao to intercept an incoming strike or grab.
     
  4. KaliKuntaw

    KaliKuntaw Valued Member

    Ive had really good results redirecting with a biu jee and laap while zoning to the outside. So i quess FMA always creeps in there...lol
     
  5. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    During fighting, it's not easy to play "forearm touch forearm" game as shown in the following clip at 1.03 or 1.18.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usdcpWXPaDY"]Baddest Fight Scenes EVER! - Enter the Dragon - vs. O'Hara - YouTube[/ame]

    I do believe that "bridge = clinch". In striking environment, it's easy to get into clinch no matter you like it or not. When your opponent throws a right and left, you are already in. If your goal is to use your "forearm to wrap your opponent's upper arms", you are already in the clinching range and no longer in the striking range.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbRQ0-x9hdk"]clinch - YouTube[/ame]
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2013
  6. KaliKuntaw

    KaliKuntaw Valued Member

    No im not talking bout tan-tan and im not talking about clinching.
     
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFPO1zdZb08"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFPO1zdZb08[/ame]

    Go to 1:45 - 2:30 or so - this is pretty much identical to how I use the "hack" to get to position
     
  8. KaliKuntaw

    KaliKuntaw Valued Member

    That is pretty much how i use the man sao or biu jee.
    I except the way i train it it can be in any of the four positions a laap can be deployed.
     

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