Boxing Tips

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by YODA, Nov 3, 2003.

  1. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    I came across his whilst looking at a boxing club that Knight_errant is conidering going to - good stuff!

    Toway Amateur Boxing Club

    A word of warning before you clik the above link - their web designer needs a kick up the pants - he's embedded some pretty big (1-2mb) mp3 sounds into their pages!


    The following are some tips that will help you improve your boxing ability.

    (1) Stance

    Chin tucked. Lead shoulder slightly shrugged (though not unnaturally). Elbows in. Hands up
    (measure your eyebrows with your fists now and then). Knees slightly bent. Feet shoulder width
    apart, nearly parallel. Groin not open.

    (2) Range

    Learn to become really comfortable standing just out of reach of your opponant. Develop the sensitivity to gauge
    people's reach, and allow them to just barely miss. This will give you two valuable things: The
    ability to not freak out because things are flying at your face and barely missing, and the posture
    and positioning to hit your opponant with little adjustment.

    Everything "defensive" is really a matter of doing AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE to make your opponent miss while not messing up your alignment to hit him
    back. This is why multi-step blocking and highly eccentric movements (literally, "far from center")
    are not practiced in boxing.

    (3) Never, ever, ever take your eyes off of your opponent.

    Don't always try to stay out of your opponents reach, or you'll always find him out of your reach. Train
    your slip and bob to stay in range and let the punch go right by so you're still in range to throw it
    out. Don't weave too much.

    (4) Everything has a reason!

    "Do nothing that is without a reason". Beware of wasteful moves that don't serve any purpose. For example, jab when you slip your opponents jab. Cross when you slip
    your opponents cross. Don't let your opponent become comfortable, or secure in the knowledge that you're going to
    stand there while he does what he wants.

    The thing that weakens an opponent's offense is your own offense. Everything else (e.g. slipping
    without countering, blocking as an isolated movement) is just prolonging the inevitable.

    (5) Read your opponents hips

    Learn to read your opponents hips. Whenever a hip comes toward you, that is advance notice that something
    is coming from that side. Some also telegraph with their shoulders too.

    (6) The jab

    the art of boxing is founded on the jab. If you've got a jab, you can box. If you don't,
    then boxing is hard. Simple as that. Without the jab, expect to get hit a lot. The jab helps to make
    you a good boxer. Without one, you're just a puncher (which can also be effective, but requires
    specialized attributes to pull it off).

    (6) The Can Opener, and the Spoon

    There's a saying in boxing that your jab is a can opener, and your cross is a spoon. The
    opponent is a can of meat. You've got to use your can opener to open the can BEFORE you can use your
    spoon to dig out the meat. If you try to use your spoon first, you'll generally fail. Even if you
    like to lead off with a cross (not usually advisable, unless you're Roy Jones, Ali, or a ****ed off
    Jack Johnson), it is advisable that you at least feint a jab to conceal the load-up of your rear
    shoulder for the cross.
    (7) The Hook

    Two things to remember in throwing your hook. Lead foot rotates on the ball like you're crushing
    peanuts. Lead arm hooks horizontally and tight, like you're grabbing one of your friends around the
    neck with your arm and saying, "Come here!" (the noogie position). Also regarding the hook, THERE IS
    NO WRIST. Your wrist does not exist. You can use horizontal or vertical fist -- matter of what range
    you're hooking at.

    Balls of the feet are the gas, heels are the brakes
    (8) Speed

    Speed is very important. But quickness and suddenness are even more important. Don't build up
    in speed. If you do, you will tend to miss against a person with movement, even though your punches
    are fast at full extension. This is because there is a discernible buildup in your acceleration.
    Relaxation is important for speed. Don't tighten your fist up until you're almost fully extended.

    (9) Shoe in the Bucket

    It describes a failure to shift the weight off of one foot and onto the other when
    throwing a power punch. Classic example is in the cross -- at full extension, your rear foot is on the
    ball, allowing the weight to shift and that hip to come forward. This contradicts the planted rear
    foot of many traditional martial arts in their "reverse punch" -- what in boxing we call shoe in the

    (10) Barrel of a gun

    Look down your punching arm like you're looking down the barrel of a gun. This will help that
    arm to provide cover for your chin on that side while you're punching. Common mistake is for people
    to leave their chin open on the side of the arm they are punching with. Depending on your personal
    style, it can also help to turn your thumbs downward to help bring the shoulders up and provide better
    cover. Your arms are like two soldiers guarding a fort. When one of them leaves the fort to make war,
    he has to build a wall to protect his post while he's gone. Also, in keeping with this analogy the
    other soldier at such times is extra vigilant.

    (11) Where there's weight, there's power

    loading is essential for power punching. But, do not telegraph. Conceal the shift of
    weight in your combinations.

    (12) Hourglass stance

    This is a dangerous but necessary position in hitting. It happens at the tail end of your cross.
    Be ready to duck and cover. Your cross will put you in a bob position. You should be ready to stay
    low and elbow block, weave under, or jab to correct your posture. DO NOT just stand there fully
    extended with nowhere to go.

    (13) 60/40 Rule

    In your stancing and movement, do not put more than 60 percent of your weight on either foot
    except in brief extreme situations. i.e. In the course of regular movement stand in balance. One-
    legged stances, stilted and straight knee stances, overextended forward stances, etc., are a big
    mistake both offensively and defensively.

    (14) Dancing

    Don't dance around, or bounce up and down. Quick, short, even-keeled adjustments are what you
    want. Stay mobile, but don't waste any motion. In keeping with the gas and brakes analogy ,
    stay on the balls for quick range adjustment, but SETTLE IN on your punches. You get your punching
    power from the ground, through the legs, and off the hips.

    (15) The generator

    Everything you do needs to derive power from somewhere.
    Your hips are your generator. Plug everything you do into your generator. Throwing punches without
    the hips is like fighting a duel with an unloaded gun. You might get the first shot off, but he'll be
    the one who really connects.

    (16) Better to make him miss by an inch, than by a mile When you make him miss by a mile, you'll often find yourself too far out of alignment to fire back. Make him miss by an inch, and it's as if
    he's not punching you at all -- as far as your ability to counterpunch is concerned.

    (17) Head at the level of your punch

    You have to drop your head to the level of your target. THIS INCLUDES BODY SHOTS. Not to do
    this is to get hit. Some say you should put your eyes at the level of where you're punching, some say
    the chin or shoulders.
    (18) Punching Power

    The power of your punch is on the very end of it. This is one way in which boxing is a
    range game. You've got to find your distance, in order to tee off. The real art comes in catching
    him at the right time and place when your punch is at its max. Both of you are on the move, though, and this takes timing.

    (19) When to catch him

    Often, an opponent is ready to move once off of your first attack to make you miss. But, usually
    after this first movement he has nowhere to go unless he's pretty good. Often you can catch him
    flatfooted at this time, if you're ready to follow up and keep gaining range. Most common of all is
    simply leaning away from your initial attack. If you're ready to follow up from that, you can usually
    catch most people.

    Throw something up at his face, and you'll see his
    reaction. Then you can know exactly what to do, since he has tipped his hand, and show his intention.
    Example: You throw a threatening jab (good safe angle, well-covered, but believable) and he reacts by
    moving slightly back away. This tells you to do the same thing, but follow with an overhand to catch
    him -- because you know where his head is going to be after the jab.

    (20) The chin

    The chin is the magic button. Tuck yours, exploit his. Some people look really tough, but they
    go down from a tap on the chin. Whereas, trying to knock a guy out by punching his skull can take a
    while, unless you hit really hard. Head's like a helmet. Not a good target, unless you can already
    break patio blocks with your fists. I've knocked people out by punching their skull without hurting
    my hands, but it takes a while to get your fists tough enough for it.

    (21) Jab like a fencer

    Jabbing is a game of controlled lunging in coordinated footwork to achieve the right range for
    other things. Some people use the jab in a light way, like a fly swatter. I like to use it light,
    but also as a heavier punch as well -- a dichotomy which comes from originally learning to box at 175
    lbs., but finding myself now at a trim 215-220 lbs. with enough speed AND weight to use it both ways.

    (22) Sparring

    The quality of your sparring partners will influence your skill level. Highly skilled fighters do
    not need to go full contact all the time to get a lot from the exchange. Moreover, you can't explore new combinations and options if there's too big a price to pay. When
    somebody is out there trying to knock your block off all the time, you'll tend to fall back on just
    surviving instead of consciously enforcing actions that are intelligent if not yet reflexive.

    (23) Shadowboxing

    You should shadowbox EVERY DAY. The most valuable training experiences for me have been those
    little 15 or 20 minute sessions where I shadowbox and play with different angles and combos. Keeps
    you sharp, too.

    (24) Number your angles

    Start with a basic numbering system:

    Lead Hook
    Rear Overhand
    Lead Uppercut
    Eventually add other angles (e.g. from close range, squared face-off, or opponent moves to inside):

    Rear Uppercut
    Lead overhand
    Rear Hook
    Now. When working the focus mitts, have the feeder call out combos by number:

    "1,1 while circling"


    The feeder should collide the mitts with your punches so that the mitts do not snap back, making it possible for him to stay with you on faster combinations, and to give you a satisfying impact when you punch.

    Next, work into advancing combos where the feeder throws angles after your first one or two shots, you evade and continue with your counter.

    Last edited: Nov 3, 2003
  2. Tosh

    Tosh Renegade of Funk

    Tartan club kit! :D

    SOLD! :D
  3. tang_sou_dao

    tang_sou_dao YoU cAnT sEe Me!

    great post! yoda
  4. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Wow!!!!!!! I soooooo much want to be KE now.....some cool tips there!!!

    Thanx for posting it here Yoda, I don't hahve the patience to wait for the mp3s to load ;)

  5. pimphand

    pimphand New Member

    Some good tips from that website, but to my mind the best advice is to spar often.

    Hours spent banging away on heavy bags may feel good and give the impression that you are developing power, but tranferring that into sparring is the all important key.
  6. booj

    booj New Member

    I must agree with pimphand on this...If I could only do one type of training it would be sparring....

    Theres no point in putting in hours of pad/bagwork and thinking your gonna be able to apply it in a real situation.

    Timing, distance, and range finding can only be learned thru sparring. We've all seen exponents who look quite 'tasty' whilst throwing techniques into thin air, who then cannot lay a glove on a more experienced sparrer...

    Sparring plenty and often (but rarely hard) is the way to go...
  7. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    Agreed! Contact level IMHO should be at a level where you are not willing to take a hit - but still able to go to work the next day. Not an easy balance to get when the old testosterone starts to pump.
  8. Pika

    Pika New Member

    Best post I have seen so far.

    I love my ground work, but getting in the ring and sparring is about the best fun I have.

    I just wish I wasn't so hopeless.......
  9. Bon

    Bon Banned Banned

    Edited for profanity : Yoda
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  10. Cain

    Cain New Member

    Yipes! Stepped over the mark did he? ;)

  11. Jim

    Jim New Member


    Good post, Dave.
  12. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    Stepped over it - jumped up and down on it - spat on it.
  13. Pika

    Pika New Member

    Whay did he say?
  14. YODA

    YODA The Woofing Admin Supporter

    I wasn't referring to this post - but to his general behaviour the day I was forced to ban him (again)
  15. john yates

    john yates Valued Member

    well it's good
  16. binski20

    binski20 Valued Member

    Awesome post Yoda.
  17. shipto

    shipto Atkin's for life

    I also got a search and destroy adware warning from that link yoda may be the music files but i dont know
  18. shoto-kali

    shoto-kali The Chosen One

    thats a good post yoda, it looks like i can even use this tip to my karate & arnis training
  19. semphoon

    semphoon walk idiot, walk.


    Pad drills


    There are loads. The only limit is your imagination

    Here are some good ones

    You have basic jab, cross, hook, uppercut combinations. The basic combos can be extended by what ever you like.

    I would call basic
    1 Jab, cross.
    2 Jab, cross, hook.
    3 Jab, cross, uppercut.
    4 Jab, cross, hook, uppercut.
    5 Jab, cross, uppercut, hook.

    Then you can think of extending these outside (ie at long range) combinations.

    Each time you finish a combo with (assuming authordox) with your left hand, think about putting a cross on the end.

    Each time you finish a combo with your right hand, think about putting a hook or uppercut on the end.

    If you have finished with a hook, try an uppercut; if you finished with an uppercut, try a hook.

    It should flow and will usually alternate sides with each punch.
    But remember to drill your double and triple jabs into your combos.

    The whole point is the flow of punches so in the end you can start drills that have lots of moves-
    double jab, cross, hook, uppercut, hook, cross, uppercut and then slip to the side out of harms way.

    Although some people may say that there is little point in doing over X amount of moves in a combination, and they are right.

    But thats for them and you asked about fun drills.

    For the inside (ie so close to your opponent you can smell his/her breath) there are a few.

    (when I say body, I mean "hook to the body", head means "hook to head." When "body" is followed by "head" it means same side because you are getting the guy to drop his guard on that side exposing his head)

    1 Body, head
    2 Body, head, cross
    3 Body, cross, head
    4 Body, cross, head, uppercut

    And start mixing it up and getting it to follow. Although as they develop, you can think about the issue of cadence (another issue that will hopefully come up at some point )

    Then you can drill uppercuts and hooks from the inside position-
    1 Uppercut, hook
    2 Hook, uppercut.

    Then add crosses/hooks/uppercuts on the end.

    Also make it more interesting by throwing shots back at him/her, and force them to bob/weave/slip/salute/parry/catch you shots so its increasing their awareness of defence as well as offence.

    Much fun to be had, the only limit is your imagination.

    Also having a good pad man is very important. With pad drills, (although the hitter can work his weaves/slips/footwork/headmovement etc etc) sometimes you are only as good as the person who is pushing you and giving you the targets to hit and letting you know when you are uncovered (by hitting you back) etc.

    Whats great about pad drills is that the HOLDER of the pads gains a lot of essential skills. The holder develops as a pad man and learns how to get the best out people.
  20. Freeform

    Freeform Fully operational War-Pig Supporter

    Good stuff there mate ;)

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