boxing basics

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by luciobrazil007, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. luciobrazil007

    luciobrazil007 Valued Member

    hi , i have recently started judo and it is going well but i also want to learn some boxing as i brought a heavy bag not so long ago and i am going to set it up.
    does anyone have any tips on how to get a basic understanding? any beginner videos ect.
    (i wont be joining a club until i get more experienced at judo)
     
  2. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    Find somebody who has some boxing experience (preferably somebody who has competed or trained seriously for at least a year), or go to a boxing gym and pay for a month, or pay for a couple of 1 on 1 training sessions and learn the absolute basics.

    Basics:

    Footwork - Moving forwards, moving backwards, moving left/right and diagonally. How to transfer your weight and move your hips during the basic 6 punches.

    Punches - Basic 6 - Jab, Cross, Lead Hook, Power Hook, Lead Uppercut, Power Uppercut.

    Head Movement - Bob/weave and how to Roll.

    Those are the absolute basics that you need to be able to walk into a gym and be an extremely novice sparring partner. It also takes a couple of months of dedicated and hard training just to grasp how to do all that correctly and somewhat put it all together. It will be near impossible to learn this on your own from DVD or book, but once you are taught those basics and drill them for a little bit it leaves you PLENTY to work on your own until you're comfortable with joining a gym.

    The only thing I think you can get as far as videos and other training aids is boxing workouts which have exercises that help transfer over to specific movements in boxing (just the exercises, not so much the technique stuff in them). It's not going to make you good at boxing, but when you decide to join a boxing gym and start training your ability to execute the movements may be done in a shorter time then those who haven't done those exercises, as well as not becoming exhausted as quickly. If you check out the Boxing Forum here on MAP there are some great videos in one of the threads with exercises you can do that are of tremendous benefit.

    Other then that you really need to expose yourself to a boxing gym or somebody who is experienced in order to get some training. The only thing you're probably going to get from watching training videos is when you walk into a boxing gym to learn you've already heard about what they will be instructing you on.
     
  3. Gripfighter

    Gripfighter Sub Seeker

    hit the pad with simple combos for cardio or something if you like but if you really want to learn to box you need instruction, they don't call it the sweet science for nothing, its much more complex than it looks.
     
  4. Lad_Gorg

    Lad_Gorg Valued Member

    Since you won't be joining a boxing gym for some time, and have already bought a heavy bag, I would suggest going over the basic 6 of boxing that Ero talked about. Honestly these can be learnt simply by emulating what the pro's do, or by watching YT clips. They won't be perfect, but they'll give you a primer to improve on later when you actually join a proper club. This basic training will also condition your muscles, and increase your pain tolerance to hitting something.

    I don't know your physical condition, but try to exert yourself quite a bit, so you make proper exercise of it (trust me it'll help when you actually join a class). Don't hit the bag too hard on your first few trys (let the tendons, muscles, and bones get accutumed to hitting), and seriously invest in "bag-gloves", otherwise you'll mash and gash up your knuckles.


    As for footwork, body-work, higher level conditioning, and sparring you'll need a gym.
     
  5. luciobrazil007

    luciobrazil007 Valued Member

    thanks 4 the replies , i dont intend on becoming a boxing master, judo will be my main think i just want to be able to throw a strong punch.
     
  6. liero

    liero Valued Member

    Wear gloves when you hit the bag.


    The rest is as above
     
  7. Hapuka

    Hapuka Te Aho

    I highly recommend these youtube channels for Boxing basics:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/tripleVVV3

    http://www.youtube.com/user/BoxingFitFactory

    http://www.youtube.com/user/myboxingcoach

    http://www.youtube.com/user/expertboxing

    The first things you want to start off with is learning how to do the following;

    Proper stance and guard
    Keeping the shoulders relaxed
    Moving from side to side, back and forth
    Punching with a straight wrist
    The Jab
    The Cross

    Before approaching the heavy bag, start off with shadow boxing. I would recommend giving Bas Rutten's Boxing Workout a go. He has a system in his workout consisting of the following;

    1 = jab
    2 = cross/right straight
    3 = left hook
    4 = right hook

    Sometimes he will call out punches on their own. If you hear a 2, 3, or a 4 on their own, that means he wants you to do everything up to whatever number he's called out. If you hear 3 or 4, just do the 2 combination instead (jab and cross), or you can add an extra punch on eg; 3 = jab, cross, jab. 4 = jab, cross, jab, cross. If you hear him call out a punches on their own, execute only the jab and cross/right straight in the combination.

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  8. daggers

    daggers Valued Member

    Anybody can hit things, not much point walloping a heavy bag aimlessly,
    Just do one boxing class a week. It will also help with cardio , strength fitness in general etc
     
  9. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    To add on the "wear gloves" bit that everyone is saying, it is far more important to learn how to wrap your hands, and then to wrap them whenever you hit the bag. From my experience if I hit the bag with bag gloves or full size gloves I can never hit very hard because my hands/wrist starts hurting. When I was younger I hurt my hand enough to not be able to hit the bag anymore for a while. I've experienced the same type of pain when I was younger from hitting the bag, but now wearing wraps and although I will still get the jolt of pain in my hand the wraps keeps everything tight and keeps you from getting seriously injured a lot of times (this isn't to say if you experience that pain that you should keep clobbering the bag as hard as you can). I can hit the bag lightly with just wraps on, I can go about 80% with bag gloves and wraps, and 100% no problem with wraps and 16oz gloves. Without wraps or gloves . . . MAYBE 20%.
     
  10. Zinowor

    Zinowor Moved on

    I can hit the bag for a long time without feeling any pain. I use to get pain, but then I started to practice proper structure and hitting with the correct knuckles. I used to hit with the knuckle of my pinky finger and that definitely hurt after a while. But now I hit with my middle finger and it's like I can keep punching forever, it made a huge difference.

    So either you're not hitting the bag in a healthy way or you have an issue with your hands.
     
  11. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Highly Skilled Peeper Supporter

    Would you mind telling us how heavy your are and how long you've been doing boxing/kickboxing Zinowar?
     
  12. Sketco

    Sketco Banned Banned

    Don't forget the liver shot. It's a thing of beauty.
     
  13. Hapuka

    Hapuka Te Aho

    For a beginner, they should probably wait until they join a boxing club before they attempt anything else such as hooks or uppercuts as they're more technical and easier to get wrong than the basic jab and cross. Same goes for defensive techniques such as the slip, duck and weave, and roll.

    Everything that I've listed in my previous post are things I'm pretty confident that just about anyone can learn at home with a bit of practice.
     
  14. Lad_Gorg

    Lad_Gorg Valued Member

    I always practiced au natural. The main reason was that when I was an immortal (16 y.o.) I figured that I wouldn't always have wraps or boxing gloves on, so it's better to practice in the way my body will be in when a SD situation arises. I should also mention that at this age I was also using solid concrete walls as target practice so my fists were solid as rocks (yeh I was a stupid teen gimme a break).

    However, I prefer to send a messege of protection and prevention, especially for someone who is a beginner in the area. What the OP should do is try out a few different suggestions from here; so bare, wraps only, gloves only, and wraps and gloves. But for the un-calused skin of a beginner, gloves may be beneficial for learning the technique first. JMHO



    Oh and OP, listen to Hapuka, that was an awesome post.
     
  15. Zinowor

    Zinowor Moved on

    I think I may have made a mistake. I actually seriously thought you had hand problems after reading your post. And considering your reply, it would seem you have a lot of experience in boxing. So my comment probably insulted you, I did not mean to. I looked at your profile, but it didn't say anything about your experience so I assumed you were doing something wrong for your hands to hurt like that.

    I'm no boxer, but I've been hitting a heavy bag for 5 years. I had hand problems in the beginning, so I wrapped them and it was fine. Then I started to punch better and my hands started to hurt again and I didn't understand why. I overcame this, so I thought I should share my findings to someone who may have had the same problem as me. Also, if I knew I didn't have heavy punches I wouldn't have said anything.
     
  16. callsignfuzzy

    callsignfuzzy Is not a number!

    I'll second the gloves and wraps (or third, or whatever we're up to now). I would recommend bag gloves that allow you to make a propper fist.

    Also, learn how to make a propper fist.

    I would suggest paying attention to your form. Make sure you have a good stance. Try to throw good, technical punches- this will help reduce the risk of injury. To this end, I'd recommend warming up with a round of shadow-boxing.

    I'd also recommend investing in a small round timer. In addition to helping you push yourself (doing 5X3 minute rounds as opposed to hitting until you feel tired, for instance), you can also switch things up by focusing on different things every round. For example, throw only jabs for one round. Do another round where you incorporate in-and-out footwork. Do another round where you stay in close and punch continuously. These are a little more advanced, so you may want to wait a few months before trying them out, but it keeps bag work from getting old.

    For resources, there are a few good Youtube sites, but I'd also recommend picking up the boxing books from Tracks publishing. Mark Hatmaker and Al Lachia prefer to do things a little differently from each other, but either one will have some good info.
     
  17. Andy Defuson

    Andy Defuson Banned Banned

    6 months ago, i also brought a heavy bag and wondering guide how to set it up. then i came across a website and it assisted me a lot regarding this.
    Here is the guide link .
    3 Ways to Hang a Heavy Bag - wikiHow
     
  18. windwalker

    windwalker Member

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