I like boxing and I have great respect for the awesome power that a boxer can dish out with his fists, but would you boxers say that boxing is a "complete" Martial Art? Other arts may have grappling, kicking and other goodies whicle boxing is reduced to fists and only the front knuckels. Maybe reduced to the max? What are your opinions?
Boxing is an awesome art and very much underated by many so called martial artists. It is, however, far from "complete".
Exact;y what Yoda said. Although it is very effective in the range it is used in, training and techniques in other ranges are nonexistent.
Wrong. Many brawlers will try to push you over or throw you amateurishly, landing you on the ground. A boxer would be mincemeat on the ground with a good groundfighter.
They are good in fighting range! What other ranges are there.... Boxing is as complete as many arts that claim to be COMPLETE. Boxers do work at a lot of ranges, I made the same mistake of only distinguising between striking and grappling. Plus boxers do go into clinch range more than most. And who's to say they won't still be punching as it goes to the floor, if you're going to take a good boxer out on the ground, you'd better be good both striking and grappling!
Define complete? There's always someone out there with a different opinion or list of facets that you require to be "complete". Is BJJ complete, Muay Thai, Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Kung-Fu, Krav Maga, etc etc...? You think you train in a complete MA and then some ******* twats you on the head with a plank of wood and mugs you. Is this the fault of your MA because it didn't cover "plank twatting" or was it just that you were in a sitaution that was hard to prepare for? According to many of the US practitioners of MA's an art isn't complete without firearms training for instance. Kinda screws most of us I would imagine...
In what way is grappling a new range? There are only so many places for a fight to take place. Ground & standup have long histories prior to current trends. Certain ranges might go in and out of vogue for a time that is all. Of course boxing doesn't train grappling.
I think range is a slightly different thing...... And granted boxing doesn't grappling range, this is not to say a boxer can't fight on the floor! The strengths of boxing can be carried over to new styles, I think a good boxer would soon adapt to learning something like Judo, and that along with boxing etc would help make a good complete fighter.
there are two types of art Real and fake Soft and hard Real works in real fights and can be adapted Fake only works in the dojo and is harder to adapt. i have sparred with 7 martial artists who say boxing is crap and not good and i put them out of training for weeks. i buts them up only using boxing none of my other martial arts. A martial artist shouldnt be biased. a fool is!
Bust them up SB Many martial artists become slaves to their style instead of using them and all to become a good fighter................. Maybe uts ignorance or just lack of understanding. Good point, there are only real and fake fighters!
Fake and real is life we just have to choose which we are Fake is easy but useless Real is hard but usefull
You noticed the way forum posts drift? I suppose, boxing does exactly what it says on the tin, it teaches you boxing i.e. ballistic strikes with the hands, to a high level of skill. You could probably walk around your whole life needing no other fighting skills than boxing. If you intend to fight people with other types of skill, then I suppose you couldn't regard it as 'complete'.
True. A boxer still has big weaknesses, its not complete, and probably less complete than most MA's. But it teaches a good level of fighting skill due to its training methods (usually) so the strengths of a boxer are generaly very good.
