Any walking encyclopaedias out there?

Discussion in 'Jeet Kune Do' started by dredleviathan, Feb 3, 2003.

  1. dredleviathan

    dredleviathan New Member

    Hi there,

    I wonder if anyone can help my in defining the following Jun Fab/ Wing Chun terms?

    1. Toi ma
    2. Toi gert
    3. Pak tek
    4. Lap gert
    5. Bong gert
    6. Jeet gert
    7. Yao ma
    8. Jo ma
    9. Loi da
    10. Har da

    Also thinking about it I also wonder if anyone knows what the difference between Lop sau and Lap sau is apart from the obvious spelling?


  2. Light Ng

    Light Ng New Member

    Lap sau & Lop sau

    Lap sau - Clearing hand i.e moving your opponents arm to clear the way without actually grabbing it

    Lop sau - grabbing your opponents arm to clear the way

    Terms 1-10. Not familiar with the romanisation of those terms but I can make a good guess. If no-one else comes up with an explanation I'll let you know what I think they are.
  3. dredleviathan

    dredleviathan New Member

    Thanks Light Ng I'd appreciate you guesses. They gotta be better than mine.

    All the way through my notes I swing from Lop to Lap depending on what it sounded like - is the same same basic movement the same though just with/without the grab?
  4. Fergie Boy

    Fergie Boy New Member

  5. dredleviathan

    dredleviathan New Member

    Thanks for all your help Fergie Boy and Light Ng. OK with some alterations and much scouting around I have the floowing translations (incase you're interested):

    1. Toi mah - evade by moving entire stance back
    2. Toi geuk - evade by moving front leg back
    3. Paak tek - slapping kick (intercept)
    4. Lap geuk - overhook the kick
    5. Bong geuk - in WC this is a bong sau + intercept kick; in JF this is the same as 6.
    6. Jeet geuk - lower leg shielf (Thai crush)
    7. Yao ma - move to right (usually accompanied by kick to supporting leg - cut kick)
    8. Jo ma - move to left
    9. Loi da - inside hit (split entry)
    10. Har da - low hit

    Now to remember them...

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