American Hoggers

Discussion in 'Off Topic Area' started by cuongnhugirl, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Wait, what's the difference? No I mean, for real, help me out here. :[
     
  2. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    Spare me the self-righteous claptrap.

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    And the UK's foxes, unlike Texas's feral hogs, aren't a serious threat to the economy and domestic food production.
     
  3. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    Jamie and Gordon have done stuff.

    Might not be the best TV in the world but I think it didn't do a bad job overall.
     
  4. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    I've always wanted one of those hounds.
     
  5. cuongnhugirl

    cuongnhugirl Banned Banned

    Whereas we are just a bunch of ignorant rednecks right? Maybe we are just from different societies. In the southern US, hunting and fishing are as much a part of the culture as cornbread and black eyed peas.
     
  6. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    Personally I'm not against hunting as long as you get out there and kill it yourself and it has some practical purpose.

    I spent my youth around horses and birds of prey though, not bad for a city lad.
     
  7. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    I can't look at a picture with a bunch of dogs and post anything serious either. I refrained from simply posting "I love dogs." because it didn't contribute to anything. After the point sunk in, that's all that could process.

    That or getting my ghillie suit ready because I see some of them thar redcoats a'comin'.
     
  8. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    I hear that hogs are filled with bacon.
     
  9. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

    You know hunting with dogs has been banned for years, right? Because it was barbaric.
    Yeah, cos foxes are the vegans of the animal kingdom, they'd never consider eating, oh I don't know, chickens, for example.
     
  10. cuongnhugirl

    cuongnhugirl Banned Banned

    Imagine if Paul Revere had a cell phone? Lol i bet they don't show that commercial in England.
     
  11. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    I hear they are big scary things and have Orcs riding on them. :eek:
     
  12. holyheadjch

    holyheadjch Valued Member

  13. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    Yeah we banned hunting with dogs. That picture is either a trail hunt (no killing involved), an old picture or a hunt breaking the law.
    And when we make a UK TV show glorifying fox hunting it might be an accurate comparison.

    I mean cultural differences aside the most worrying thing to point out about the show isn't that it might be slightly set up or scripted.
    If you're surprised that TV of any sort is scripted and contrived then you need to get out more.
     
  14. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    I don't think they do but I'd be surprised if it's for the reasons you are thinking.

    What is rightly a very important event for you folks isn't much more than an historical blip for a lot of us.
     
  15. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Oh, well if they eat chickens, by all means, eliminate one of your few remaining wild creatures.

    Fishing still kills animals last time I checked. The science for whether fish can or cannot feel pain is still unsettled - it's also a mistake to characterize as diverse a group as fish based on one survey of nociceptors in one fish.

    http://www.aps.uoguelph.ca/~rmoccia/RDM articles/Fish Welfare -Chandroo, Duncan, Moccia 2004.pdf

    "Teleost fish are considered to have marked differences in some aspects of brain structure and organization as compared to tetrapods, yet they simultaneously demonstrate functional similarities and a level of cognitive development suggestive of sentience. Anatomical, pharmacological and behavioural data suggest that affective states of pain, fear and stress are likely to be experienced by fish in similar ways as in tetrapods. This implies that fish have the capacity to suffer, and that welfare consideration for farmed fish should take these states into account."

    Ha, you play a silly game for man children (Lizardmen here).
     
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  16. Smitfire

    Smitfire Cactus Schlong

    For the record...I don't like shows that glorify killing fish either.
    Can we just stop with glorifying the killing of anything? Yeah?
    We're past that.
    Sometimes killing is necessary but let's not throw a party after eh?
     
  17. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    Fox hunting is still legal. Who cares whether "with dogs" is legal or not, fox hunting is legal. You're still allowed to shoot foxes with a rifle as "vermin." Who cares whether dogs are involved. It doesn't matter to the fox hit by a round of 5.56.

    The photograph was taken from this piece published in the Telegraph, which glorifies hunting just as much as any reality TV show does:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/countryside/9765963/Tally-ho-Let-the-hunt-remind-us-who-we-are.html
     
  18. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

    If you want something done for free, make people think it's fun. This is how Tom Sawyer got other kids to paint a fence for him, and it still works today.

    According to Texas A&M researchers, 1.7 million feral hogs need to be killed annually to hold the population in check. You can either convince private citizens to do it for free, or you can pay government employees to do it.

    If a government employee located and killed five hogs in a single work day and was paid $20/hour to do so, you're paying $32/hog. That would be a cost of over $50 million annually to harvest hogs, just for Texas alone. I'd rather that people considered hog-hunting a recreation and that that $50 million of tax dollars was put into infrastructure and public services.
     
  19. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Plus, they're filled with bacon.
     
  20. Ero-Sennin

    Ero-Sennin Well-Known Member Supporter

    I think they need to get reserve units out there to get them. Training in stalking, pursuit, concealment, and marksmanship. You would have the cost of rounds and maybe rations for the day, but the efficiency of doing this would probably far exceed civilian involvement and would help to train reserve units. You could also do extremely realistic medical training. Pig is shot but you didn't kill it, keep it alive as long as you can with your standard medical kit. (Although this would be practical for the military, I could see a lot of people having problems with the second part)
     

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