Wing Chun Forum

Discussion in 'Suggestions, Problems and Tests' started by Gnosis, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. Gnosis

    Gnosis New Member

    Nonsense, there is crane and snake, yes. Wing Chun is Hakka as you say. But all chinese systems do not come from white crane and all chinese systems are not southern. So logically your argument do not hold.

    How do you know people have not been scared off? How can you make such a statement from behind you PC? This is the internet and people can read on MAP from all over the globe. Yet you claim to know what every Wing Chun guy who visits MAP thinks. Seriously?

    The list I used as example all come from the same source, japanese Jujutsu. Yet you put all chinese systems in one box. The equivalent would be to put all japanese systems in one box also.

    - Wouldn´t it be nice to sell some apples?

    - We don´t have apples because we don´t sell any.

    - Well you can´t sell any, if you don´t have them. Now there are many people that eat apples.

    - Yes but nobody wants apples, even if there is many people eating apples, that´s no reason to sell apples.

    - Well if you don´t have apples in your shop you don´t really know do you.

    - Yes but we don´t have apples because we wouldn´t sell any even if people that come to our shop eat apples. And we know that because we never had apples in our shop.

    Anyway I´m out. Enjoy your forum.
     
  2. Anth

    Anth Daft. Supporter

    If memory serves me right the Western MA (probably more accurately named "HEMA" now) and Koryu fora came from the Weapons forum when MAP had a lot of good discussion on those topics and thus there was the demand for the new fora. MMA could have been a spin-off of Wrestling too back in Cooler's day. Kuk Sool was definitely started by using the "Other Styles" forum and prefixing threads with [Kuk Sool] so people could find them and the Admins and GMs could spot the increased traffic so I would suggest doing that with Wing Chun - post in the Kung Fu forum prefixing threads with [Wing Chun] and build from there. That said, I do remember calls for a WC forum going back to at least YODA's time and there was never the sustained discussion that warranted a separate forum.

    MAP FAQ - Can we have a forum for...

    This is one reason why I don't use MAP on my mobile (aside from very few threads I'd add value to these days). I can see a good few fora that could be subsumed into others without affecting discussion.
     
  3. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    I think I do remember discussions about having a WC forum way back when I was a new poster. Never knew what happened to it and MAP has gone through changes since and will keep making changes.

    The beauty of the internet and also like MA, MAP will hopefully keep evolving and keeping flowing. As I've said before. Fora has been created / merged / deleted in the past and it will keep doing so.

    I myself do hope we eventually get a mobile friendly app or something. But at the moment we're struggling to get a thanks button back and also dealing with quite a few behind the scenes stuff.
    Due to the ongoing efforts of Simon and Co.
     
  4. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Ongoing and much appreciated efforts of the entire team.
     
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    You have Literally wasted your time moaning and complaining about a liack of a wing chun forum and instead did posting about wing chun in the existing forum to stimulate discussion you continue to just moan and complainblike a petulant child and then when you don't get your own way you quit.......Good job there
     
  6. Dan Bian

    Dan Bian Neither Dan, nor Brian

    Hmmm, I don't know.
    I could see Tai Chi and Internal Martial Arts being merged quite well, but I think there are a number of interesting threads on IMA and Tai Chi that I go back to now and again, and I'd be worried for them being consumed amongst the rest of the threads on the kungfu forum.

    Keeping the joint taichi/ima seperate would also give a place for the qigong-y threads to go, and still be relatable back to martial practice.

    Just my tuppence :)
     
  7. cloudz

    cloudz Valued Member

    True, but that applies to MAP as a whole.
    This place used to be Jumping years ago.
    then even not that long ago, say go back 6 years it was still fairly busy.
    Lately the posting has dropped to the lowest levels ever.

    If the team want feedback, maybe some of us can give our personal opinions. Though on the whole I think the really high levels will never be seen again, by any kind of martial forum.

    There was a time when the Kung forum seemed to be filled with Wing Chun threads. Though to be fair the vast majority turned into "WC sucks" threads. But that often mirrored KF threads in general. That kind of thing is on the wane, but it seems some of our forums can't recover because there's just not the posters around anymore.

    But I think it's fair to say that WC was easily the most posted about system, perhaps upto 50% sometimes - or felt like it. As things stand I definitely don't see any call for it. IMA and tai chi should probably be merged into a "kung fu" or "Chinese martial arts" category too - perhaps as a IMA sub-section.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2017
  8. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    I think a big part of it is the front page going missing :(
     
  9. Anth

    Anth Daft. Supporter

    These things go in circles but it's certainly dropped from the six pages of new posts a day I used to see to half a page recently and I think Facebook has played a massive part in that. Places like MAP were the evolution to the difficult to use bulletin board systems and now social networking has taken over. Now, instead of trawling through fora for info on a particular club, you're connected to everyone and you can get an almost instant reply from a potential instructor (for example) rather than wait a day or so. I think MAP and the thousands of others still have their place for in depth discussion but for the general banter that most of us used to love it's obvious that people have migrated to Facebook, Whatsapp and the rest.
     
  10. YouKnowWho

    YouKnowWho Valued Member

    Actually I do like to discuss such topic myself. IMO, you can't move fast if you only move slow.

    I train Chinese wrestling but I don't like to discuss in Judo forum. Those Judo guys don't like to discuss no-gi and striking. I also train WC but I don't like to discuss in WC forum either. Those guys don't like to discuss grappling. The MA world is much larger than just the Judo world, or the WC world.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2017
  11. ned

    ned Valued Member

    Truth is there's only so much theorising and dogmatic arguments anyone wants to read which is what most such discussions seem to boil down to.
    My own understanding of WC has only been improved by both cross-training and learning about other styles and arts.

    Rather than call for a new forum why not start by creating your own thread
    to offer an insight, pose a question or better still show a clip of some effective pressurised mechanics at work.
    That would certainly generate discussion.
     
  12. David Harrison

    David Harrison MAPper without portfolio

    Nah, let's argue about lineage, Yip Man's opium addiction, and whether Alan Orr is actually doing Wing Chun for 40 pages instead.
     
  13. El Medico

    El Medico Valued Member

    Go through? You mean simply having to look at the titles of a few threads in the KF section? What hardship.

    Guess this shows the iron :weightlifter: will of the Hung practitioners here,as they've always been willing to undergo the arduous task of reading a few other words while searching for Hung threads,rather than asking for their own forum.

    Scared off? Seriously? You make it seem like all WC folks are ocularly impaired.
    The other WC folks here don't seem to be.

    Indeed.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2017

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