I've been researching sanda a bit and these guys are amazing. I know mma the top fighters are trained usually In muay tai, bjj, wrestling but I think part of the reason it is, is because not as many people are training sanda as straight forward mma. I want to learn sanda bjj. If sanda is a mix of shaolin and assorted kung fu styles then surely there must be some greatness behind it. This stuff works and it's unorthodox to everyday mma fighters they seem very difficult to fight and there defence is crazy except for certain exceptions who get cocky and get ko'd (yi long) but hopefully he will have learned from that experience because when he fights properly I think he's a very efficient fighter. Thoughts anyone? Or does anyone cross train these two and how have you found it?
Sanda is a very solid style. However just because it's "shaolin" doesn't mean it's superior. It's good because of the rule set.
I think the main reason it isn't more prevalent is due to it's rather small presence in Japan, Brazil and the USA compared to the more established boxing, kickboxing and muay thai gyms/coaches.
its down to china not being as big on the international MMA scene. it'll get more popular in the coming years.
I agree I can see it going far it's unorthodox and fast. The influence of wing chun the straight to the point strikes. The take downs over and over which demoralise the opponent to the point they just look exhausted and like they really can't be bothered to try anymore because they are so good at countering. I'm not saying because it's shoalin it's indestructible neither do I believe in qi but I do believe there meditation can improve your mentality for a fight your focus. The tai chi element of using there weight against themself's. Even a bjj guy has trouble taking down a well trained taiji guy I've experienced taiji push hands with a master and he literally chucked me everywhere and I thought I had good balance he was going easy on me. So despite the criticism of Chinese martial arts by certain people, the pieces are all there. that's what the sanda has been brought in for, for actual fighting finding what's useful and applying it. in the ring rules, out the ring you can use the naughty techniques.
There is more likely zero influence from wing chun. More likely hung gar and aspects of chinese wrestling. Also I want to see this video of taijai vs bjj. Please post a competitive video with little or no rules.
I'd say that there is nothing much differentiating sanda from other full contact kickboxings formats other than rules and by consequence of those rules some different tactical emphasis. I like sanda though. It's great. Cung Lee is a solid common example of sanda in mma. I'm sure there are others.
Ha probably a mistake putting this in the mma colum a lot of mma is the ultimate I like mma trained in it myself but I like the Chinese influence personally I think that if more weston people learn it as we tend to be larger we can become very efficient with it. I'm not a believer of spiritual things so I would be able to fucus on actual training sure I'd like to do a little meditation to relax my mind it's kind of chaotic anyway so It can help me either that or prozak ha (joking) either way I'm going to train in it myself and see how I do. Anyone e train sanda and bjj? Sanda for standing bjj for ground obviously as bjj is the most efficient floor and technical fighting style. Luckily the gym Im thinking of attending does sanda bjj kickboxing, tai chi for health and combat. So I'm quite curious to attend. Tuesday first lesson is free. I'm going to attend the sanda and see how I feel about it when I try and what the teaching Is like. It's very popular by the look of it and has some very good reviews. So fingers crossed.
I dunno about that, seen some crazy judo and sambo stuff in my time, really want to learn some catch wrestling too. There's only so many ways to move the human body.
Yes I'd love to learn sambo but no schools around my area and I can't travel far. but I do think bjj is the floor grappling style. Catch wrestling I was shown a little of at the gym I was at its brutal painful stuff but he wasn't insured to teach me it so only had a little demo of a few moves for my disposal lol not that I remember them now didn't practice them enough.
Nor me ,but again... It's primarily tactics/rule set/emphasis innit as you said 'there is only so many ways you can move the human body'.
It probably sound stupid that im so exited about going to this gym but to have a gym that has basically all my fave rate arts involved in one gym and to have gym equipment for 35 pound a month and it's got like 3 to 6 hours a day training including weekends.. That much for 35 I'm having high hopes.
Catch is dirty wrestling shins over the face as you turn knuckles in pressure points twisting around Ahh words can't describe the pain I literally wanted to tap when he was turning around on top of me. Good stuff!!
Pretty much zero influence from southern Chinese arts, when the military came up with sands programme they did get the best teachers of the day involved but also stole allot of hand strikes from boxing, sanda is really a military art form, sanda civilian wise is more a competition platform than an art, ie you train your style be it clf, tai chi and adopt it for the Sanda platform, there are schools that just teach sanda but there are way more schools who have a sanda programme alongside their traditional school and just adapt the techniques for the rule set
