What happens when a martial artist with no full contact experience takes on someone who does...

This is SOO TRUE! The only thing I'd add is watch out for those on drugs and/or with serious mental health issues...I wouldn't test them lol!!!

Are there any seminars/days similar to Geoff Thompson's Animal days of good quality still available? I think Geoff has stopped doing the animal days now? Can't find them. Only look for ones in Scotland.

 

All of this!

Thanks for that Hannibal.

 

For me, it's not as simple as labelling everyone who has had a fight or real situation or who has them regularly as street thugs. There's no definitive definition of a street fighter. It could be anyone. We can't all just look at the world through our eyes and think we know why everyone else does or does not do things. Everyone has different life experiences, upbringing, environments etc. All people are black and white. Not just black or just white.
Most good street fighters IMO are just good fighters anyway adapting what they know to the street. Making everything dirty, violent and intense. Ex boxers maybe, gone down the wrong route, lost their licence maybe. Don't want to get grabbed by the throat, pushed into a wall and smashed in the face over and over by one of them.

The obvious guys are not the problem anyway. The ones who are on there heels, chin up, shoulders back, square in front being loud ,should be easy to take out in theory or talk down with social skills.
It's the ones who come quietly,are friendly on the exterior, who line you up with out you even knowing it or are testing you subtly....they are the ones who know what they are doing. And it takes one to know one....as in you have to be able to think like them to not get caught. Or maybe been like them. Or be around people like them...In fact you have to be worse.
I agree that mindset is the most important. You have to attempt to be more violent, more savvy, more intent, with whatever you have , fist, slap, teddy bear, whatever.....more sneaky than the person attacking or trying it on. Worse than them for the duration it takes to get safe. Not a good guy saving the day.

Still never seen any RBSD as violent or intent as things like this. May have all the shouting and verbal etc but once it goes physical it's no where near as realistic as this, even with the gear on.

 

To be fair, a better use of equipment than what's usually seen , here

 

Once it goes physical, no matter how anyone anyone twist or phrases it ....at the end of the day it's a fight. A fight to get away, get safe, whatever....it's a fight. Weather it was wanted or an attempt was made to not go physical, once it goes physical, it's a fight.
Your saying you want to pre empt and so it's not a fight. I get that. Maybe, if it works. If it fails its now a fight. To be able to pre empt well still needs knowledge of fighting fundamentals in striking and ability to back it up if it fails.

 

The truth can bother people. To be fair so can non truths.

Is it a truth or non truth?

If Someone comes at you like a train trying to rip your head off, a good guy attitude within that moment, fancy looking, trying to do some presubscribed SD move just isn't going to cut it. That's my truth for me.

 

Indeed. What you need to do is pull guard and go for a worm guard reverse berimbolo sweep. Proper street stuff.

 

That's so sweet and zen like and I think is genuinely meant that I don't want to disturb the calm.
And breath.

Don't worry. There's no way for you to know , if I have created my own truth, belief system or am limiting myself.
Am I? Am I not?
Are you?
Are we?
Does love live inside a tiny bunnys tear? An eyelash sails across the truth down into a chasm of what it thinks it nose.

It's not "worse than them".It's worse than them in the moment.
And breath.

 

I'm not really into Bruce Lee anymore to be honest.
Was an influence when I was about ...14 for a few years.

Here's an interesting quote from Gandhi

I have been repeating over and over again that he who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully.
The strength to kill is not essential for self-defence; one ought to have the strength to die. When a man is fully ready to die, he will not even desire to offer violence. Indeed, I may put it down as a self-evident proposition that the desire to kill is in inverse proportion to the desire to die. And history is replete with instances of men who, by dying with courage and compassion on their lips, converted the hearts of their violent opponents.
Nonviolence cannot be taught to a person who fears to die and has no power of resistance. A helpless mouse is not nonviolent because he is always eaten by pussy. He would gladly eat the murderess if he could, but he ever tries to flee from her. We do not call him a coward, because he is made by nature to behave no better than he does.
But a man who, when faced by danger, behaves like a mouse, is rightly called a coward. He harbors violence and hatred in his heart and would kill his enemy if he could without hurting himself. He is a stranger to nonviolence. All sermonizing on it will be lost on him. Bravery is foreign to his nature. Before he can understand nonviolence, he has to be taught to stand his ground and even suffer death, in the attempt to defend himself against the aggressor who bids fair to overwhelm him. To do otherwise would be to confirm his cowardice and take him further away from nonviolence.
Whilst I may not actually help anyone to retaliate, I must not let a coward seek shelter behind nonviolence so-called. Not knowing the stuff of which nonviolence is made, many have honestly believed that running away from danger every time was a virtue compared to offering resistance, especially when it was fraught with danger to one's life. As a teacher of nonviolence I must, so far as it is possible for me, guard against such an unmanly belief.
Self-defence....is the only honourable course where there is unreadiness for self-immolation.
Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenceless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right.

 

Gandhi can go suck it. He ruined the cotton industry around here.

 

Aren't you being awfully judgmental for someone throwing up quotes about not being judgmental?

 

WC guy was a noob. MT knew how to handle himself. But the WC dude had no footwork at all too. Could have avoided the kick and punch easy.

 

There are almost no WC guys that have footwork to be fair. There are like..... 3 WC guys with good footwork. In the world. Ever.

 

One of them was Bruce and he's dead.