What do MA think of the Abrahamic God?

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  1. Dialectitian

    Dialectitian Banned Banned

    Please tell me a bit about yourself too.

    Thanks!
     
  2. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Impossible for a rational, educated person to believe in in good faith. At least I can't see a way.
     
  3. Fish Of Doom

    Fish Of Doom Will : Mind : Motion Supporter

    not terribly fond of the guy, myself.
     
  4. idols11

    idols11 Valued Member

    I used to think the same as you because I was an atheist. But I changed my beliefs to Christianity, and I am willing to have a discussion or debate with you (or anyone else) if you want.

    You say that educated rational people don't believe in God, but some of the biggest intellectuals - Newton, Pascal, Spinoza, Augustine and others all believed in him.
     
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  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal Cry HAVOC and let slip the Dogs of War!!! Supporter

    I dislike certain members of his fan club - other than that he is just one of many that are believed in; no more, no less
     
  6. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    Name contemporaries and ensure that they believe in good faith. Anyone operating logically will say that faith is not an acceptable standard for juries or scientists to reach their conclusions; the same is not true for religious beliefs.
     
  7. blindside

    blindside Valued Member

    Just one myth among many, makes no damn sense except as a really really contradictory morality tale.
     
  8. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    Ultimately God is empty.
     
  9. Dialectitian

    Dialectitian Banned Banned

    I cry to God sometimes.
     
  10. Van Zandt

    Van Zandt Mr. High Kick

    I'd like to have a pint with the geezer, ask him what he thinks about the current state of the world.
     
  11. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    You cry perhaps, who or what it is to is another matter.

    Either way God like everything else is empty.

    By that I mean that you can't show me God, you can't show me the one thing that makes God God.

    Even at the most superficial level God is only God because you see "him" as such.
     
  12. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    That's a strange way of ordering your thinking.

    There is no proof for any God, and I don't believe in any of the other gods, therefore I am an atheist.


    What confuses people is the attachment bonds we have to our parents, that's makes us think there is always something bigger and cleverer then us, looking out for us.

    There's not, there's just us, our genetic tribe, and everyone we've ever affected. And that's enough for me.
     
  13. Dialectitian

    Dialectitian Banned Banned

    OK. This is off topic.

    God is a Believer. And he is bigger than I can describe. Other belivers follow his command. God says leave me (alone) with him whom I created alone. In Islam. This means that this "hospital raider", the one, the "crazy" one is diciplined by God by your definition. God exists. How can Buddhists cry to/because of emptiness?
     
  14. Dean Winchester

    Dean Winchester Valued Member

    You still haven't shown me God. You talk about other things, things that are just component parts of an concept.

    Not sure what you mean by this.

    "How can Buddhists cry to/because of emptiness?"
     
  15. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    I think your auto translate isn't working well.
     
  16. Dialectitian

    Dialectitian Banned Banned

    God is everywhere. Noone can see him. Although I heard tales about that 5 strong Prophets only will be able to see him. Muhammed. Moses. Jesus. ... Noah? And one more.
     
  17. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Mitch? :banana:
     
  18. Dialectitian

    Dialectitian Banned Banned

    I am not using auto translate. This is my skill in English. I live in Norway. And have Aspergers (social and communication problems).

    I think God exists. And he is EVIL :D
     
  19. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    In which case your English is much better then my Norwegian.

    Why do you think God exists?
     
  20. idols11

    idols11 Valued Member

    I meant I used to think the same AND I was an atheist.

    Alistair McGrath, John Lennox, Keith Ward and William Lane Craig for example.

    I disagree that religion is based solely on faith. There are logical arguments for and against God to be considered.

    Scientists are observing observable objects - however God is not observable. Perhaps alternative methodologies need to be employed. An element of faith is, I believe, necessary.

    I could also criticise parallel universes for possibly being unobservable.
     
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