Trump and Putin

Discussion in 'Off Topic Area' started by Anjelica, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    It would be astonishing if the Russians weren't trying to influence elections in other countries.
     
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  2. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    I prefer One America News.
     
  3. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

  4. Aegis

    Aegis River Guardian Admin Supporter

    Almost certainly yes, in that it would be difficult to be worse.
     
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  5. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    One America News Network - Wikipedia

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    The channel is known for its pro-Trump coverage.[7][19] According to a number of former and current employees at the channel, as well as internal e-mails, the executives of the channel have "directed his channel to push Trump’s candidacy, scuttle stories about police shootings, encourage antiabortion stories, minimize coverage of Russian aggression, and steer away from the new president’s troubles."[20] During the 2016 presidential campaign, the channel ran a special titled "Betrayal at Benghazi: The Cost of Hillary Clinton’s Dereliction and Greed."[20]Herring, the owner of the channel, sent producers at the channel a report falsely claiming that Hillary Clinton had a brain tumor, and asked them to check up on it.[20] He also shared a report with producers that claimed that Planned Parenthood had promoted abortion, and ordered them to minimize coverage of Pope Francis's US visit due to the Pope's calls for action on climate change.[20]Herring repeatedly ordered his producers not to cover stories pertaining to Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.[20]

    In October 2017, the channel said without any evidence that a "report" had been published which showed "U.K. Crime Rises 13% Annually Amid Spread of Radical Islamic Terror".[21]President Trump later repeated this falsehood, suggesting that he learned of from the OAN.[22][23]

    In June 2017, One America News was granted a permanent seat in the White House's James Brady briefing room.[10] The network's Chief White House Correspondent, Trey Yingst, is one of the top five most called upon reporters covering the Trump administration.[24] One America News has been repeatedly called on by the President Trump during Presidential press conferences, including one in February 2017 when Yingst asked the President about his campaign's contacts with the Russian government.[25] Also in February 2017, One America News was invited to a network lunch with President Trump.[26] During an August 2017 press conference with the Finnish President, President Trump praised One America News stating, "...I want to congratulate you on the network. It's a great network." "
     
  6. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    Are you sure Trump says NO felons should regain voting rights including non violent ones like me? I never heard that.
     
  7. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    He's attacked states governess that allow it, plus it's generally people of colour who are affected the most, and trump believes they would be more likily to vote dem, so yes he's very against it.

    Also interestingly

    "Hillary Clinton has actively sought to give felons the right to vote since 2005, when she co-sponsored a bill called “Count Every Vote,” which died in Congress. “I think if you’ve done your time, so to speak, and you’ve made your commitment to go forward, you should be able to vote and you should be able to be judged on the same basis,” Clinton said in 2015. “You ought to get a second chance.”

    Although we can only hypothesize whether giving ex-felons and felons the right to vote would sway the pendulum in the Democrats’ direction, research shows that it is likely."

    What would happen if felons could vote in the US?

    So your actively saying someone who would allow you to vote is worse then someone who would deny you the vote.
     
  8. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    Let me try to explain. The amount of pot I was caught with makes me a felon. However because im a non violent felon I am eligible to one day regain the right to vote. Its the violent offenders who are ineligible. Pot shouldn't be illegal if you ask me but that's another discussion.
     
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  10. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    However, 1.13 Drugs:
    Conversations relating to manufacturing and "hyping" (promoting or sensationalizing) of drugs and drug use are not welcome at MAP.
     
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  11. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    And trump is against any felon regaining voting rights.
     
  12. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    Trump is a prude. I don't like that about him. Obama was no better. Repubs and Dems they are all politicians.
     
  13. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    ok ill shut up about it.
     
  14. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Thats a false equivalence.

    One wants you to regain your vote, once you've paid your debt to society, and the other wants to lock you away again, and remove your voting rights forever.

    What about Obama didn't you like?
     
  15. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    What a politician says and what they do are often two different things. I don't trust Hillary and Trump is a trash talker. You do realize he is a businessman. In business you always start out with the hardest stance as a jumping off point. Then you negotiate from there. Like Trump has done on immigration. He has softened his stance a lot since the campaign. He used the hardline stance as a jumping off for negotiations. He will do that on every issue no doubt. As for Obama he never impressed me and what the hell would he do for me?
     
  16. Anjelica

    Anjelica Banned Banned

    Anyway im going to go hang out now. See you later on.
     
  17. philosoraptor

    philosoraptor carnivore in a top hat Supporter

    You are factually incorrect here. Obama issued what became known as the Cole memo, essentially saying that despite the fact that marijuana remained illegal under federal law, Obama's Department of Justice would not seek to enforce those laws in states that had voted to make marijuana recreationally or medically illegal. Trump's DoJ underneath Jeff Sessions rescinded that memo and they have said that they will begin to enforce federal laws, to the detriment of marijuana and local state authority.
     
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  18. aikiMac

    aikiMac aikido + boxing = very good Moderator Supporter

    That would actually strengthen her argument in favor of Trump, if it is so. It would mean that she's thinking of what is best for the country, not what is best for her individually. And that's fully awesome, because taking a position for the betterment of others over self, regardless of what it is, shows maturity and integrity.
     
  19. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    Only if you think former felons being disenfranchised is good for the country, America is almost unique in doing this, America also incarcerates far more of its population then almost all other countries.
     
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  20. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    You could argue that the Needs of the many, outweighing the needs of the few, is also classic socialism, which I'm not sure AmericaOne or Trump would be a fan off, although he does like Norway, which is a Socialist country.
     
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