Trained Woman vs Untrained Man

In case anyone was wondering what happened with this: Sarah Patterson had to withdraw prior to the fight due to eye injury, so in stepped Tara LaRosa.

On the 6th January both contenders arrived and the event was ready to go, then the Police and the Athletic commission turned up and shut the event down, they also blocked the Facebook account so that they could not move stream any further.

The news now is that the event will be rescheduled, but they will not live stream, and information of the event will be kept quiet due to the likelihood of it being shut down again.

 

Really wish they could have turned a blind eye here...

 

Oh no, why would they spoil it like that?

Cool that the guy turned up, though! Hopeefully he will once again.

 

It certainly suggests that there is some conviction behind the bilge he has been spouting.

 

This sort of thing (legal fighting) is regulated in the US (of course it is--we regulate basically everything). Those agencies likely saw the hub-bub and freaked out.

Though if they presented it as full contact sparring, and not a fight, which I thought they said they would do, who knows. The agencies probably said that due to various factors, it still counts as a fight, not sparring.

 

I see, I have no idea how stuff like that works here, much less in the US. I suppose whatever is called a fight doesn't sound very good... but still, there are fights aren't there? Or is it that it wasn't made an official event?

Hm, I am still curious how this will end. I still thing it's good the guy stands by his words, at least he's not a coward, but I also hope he'll be taught a lesson

 

I don't really know the US regulations. But for instance 'mutual combat' is generally illegal (2 people both deciding/agreeing to fight each other). (There may be some states where it isn't? Not sure. In Massachusetts it is not legal.)
But then there are fighting events like boxing, kickboxing, etc. I'm not sure how that works, but I am willing to bet there are all kinds of bureaucratic hoops to jump through, and all sorts of requirements.
And certainly there are boxing gyms, etc, that have hard sparring and don't get any interference from authorities.

 

I wonder if it was two blokes agreeing to fight each other what would have happened?

 

So...this fight happened. I won't spoiler it.

 

Thanks for the update Smitfire--I went and searched and found a video with interviews & the fight (sparring they call it) here (warning: there is some strong language):

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1532446250202313

Haven't watched it yet.

 

Just goes to show people can trip over the truth and just keep on walking.

 

Spoiler: Riiiiiight

hilarious to see the fractured disordered and dissonant monologue of a man who just can't grasp the idea that he was beaten by a girl. With that said I was surprised by the poor quality takedown and how sloppy some of her Jujitsu and striking was. If she had been sharper then he would have been in for an even more humiliating experience. There were points were I was expecting her to lose. I watched it on the train and I was squirming and weaving in my seat like a psycho. The level of his self delusion is strong and she was pure class how she handled it from start to finish. It just shows that training matters... Which we all knew or why bother.

 

Spoiler: Yep

unlike the man himself I would never discount argue or fail to even acknowledge the win haha

 

I personally would love to fight him. I'm physically one of the weakest men in my gym and all my stuff is technique

 

He did get a bit more humble as the conversation went on... a bit. He essentially conceded all the points while dancing around them.

Her laugh when he said his striking was better than his grappling said it all. The fact he called himself a warrior and had "seen some BJJ" so he knew the basic moves told me all I needed to know about him.

What he still failed to get by the end was how important economy of motion and "coolness under fire" is, and the huge advantage it gives you. No amount of running or weight training will give you that to anywhere near the same degree.

Spoiler

I also was surprised that she didn't demolish him quickly, but she did speak well and had a great attitude to the whole thing.

 

At the end of the day...it was a man V a woman. He was bigger and stronger. I don't know how old he is but she is 40 so think he's younger. As I saw it she bided her time, got caught in some bad spots, nearly had her head pulled off by a gorilla man guillotine and then used superior conditioning, savvy, positioning and leverage (what you get from training!) while he flailed about, muscled "techniques" and gassed. Just like nearly every untrained person does when grappling (like happens when you don't train!).
And yet he still went the ego route and looked for reasons he lost to salve his self esteem.
"I lost my wind, that's why she won"...yeah...that'll happen in a fight you tool...should have thought about that when you said an untrained man could beat a trained woman.

 

I was hoping for a bit more finesse in setting up the takedown from her, that's all. She was being very friendly and gave him a lot of chances.

The funny thing is that he thinks in a "real fight" he would fare better. I don't think he has any idea how nice she was being to him.