Sports and Energy Drinks

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Simon, May 14, 2011.

  1. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    @embra. Caffeine is not as bad as we one thought. I have a thread on the subject if you care to search fir it, alternatively the same information is available on my blog.
     
  2. nidan82

    nidan82 Valued Member

    For long training sessions, or training courses try this. Add to a bottle of water a pinch of salt and half a teaspoon of sugar, shake it up. You've got yourself an effective energy drink. It hydrates you and the small amount of salt and sugar can be easily absorbed by the body. It doesn't taste bad any it's as close to free as you can get. Don't get to bogged down with all the fancy stuff they put in isotonic drinks, most of it isn't doing you any favours. This drink has got me through many a four hour training course.
     
  3. querist

    querist MAP Resident Linguist?

    Make sure you're properly hydrated...

    Here is a 'trick' I learned from the US Marine Corps (and researched and verified that it's a valid approach):

    The Marines will have these "urine hydration charts" posted at the urinals at their bases. I've seen these at Parris Island when visiting there. Since we do not have those charts or we don't want to look at the colour of our pee, we can use the "in the field" method, shown below.

    If you suspect that you're dehydrated at all, drink enough water until you NEED to pee. Naturally, go pee. Then drink enough water so you have to pee AGAIN, and then, of course, pee. At that point, unless you have some serious problems, you should be adequately rehydrated.

    Please be careful to drink slowly... don't try to drink too much too quickly or you can cause problems, especially if what you are drinking is just water (hypotonic - will draw electrolytes OUT of your system if you drink too much too quickly). This rehydration process is normally reserved for after serious exertion, such as after a long run/hike or a serious workout.
     
  4. querist

    querist MAP Resident Linguist?

    Good start, but ...

    @nidan82, that is a good, general purpose, "in a pinch" (pardon the pun) formula that will carry you through, but please remember that you lose more electrolytes than just sodium.

    However, this is a good general formula and I am certainly not discouraging people from using it. It's easy to mix up and it's inexpensive. It sounds like something that would be good for during a workout instead of just plain water.

    Again, what you suggest should work for most people, and it will certainly save money, but it is not ideal due to the lack of potassium.

    As far as isotonic drinks are concerned, I guess it depends on what you are purchasing. Granted, the flavouring only makes it more palatable. I've had unflavoured proper isotonic drinks before (with both sodium and potassium in them) and the flavouring certainly helps. The sugar is there to help the taste more than anything, though after exertion some simple carbs won't hurt anyone. After a workout, you may want to include some protein as well to help the muscles recover or even build up a bit. (This is the theory behind the various "after workout" drinks that include protein.)

    Disclaimer: Yes, I AM a doctor, but I'm not YOUR doctor. This post should not be considered as medical or clinical advice and in no way does this post establish a doctor-patient relationship. Please consult with your primary health-care professional before undertaking any exercise routine.
     
  5. nidan82

    nidan82 Valued Member

    I have often found that a couple of cold beers at the bar, after training, does the trick....... : )
     
  6. strafer

    strafer Valued Member

    I always thought caffeine actually dehydrates you.
     
  7. querist

    querist MAP Resident Linguist?

    It irritates the bladder, causing you to urinate. It does not actually dehydrate so much as simply make you feel a stronger urge to urinate, hence the belief that it dehydrates you.
     
  8. AlexCurrell

    AlexCurrell Valued Member

    Alcohol is the worst thing for you while in training.
    Eh, I don't know how seriously you take your training but what's the point of training if you're going to put the calories back on, shut down your body and kill off your brain cells. At the end of the day you essentially don't learn anything. /Rant.

    Haha, don't pay too much attention to me though, alcohol is an addiction through my eyes as is smoking and drugs which is why I have never touched either in my entire life.

    Thanks for the info, I'll be sure to drink lots of water before, during and after training.
     
  9. Paulo123

    Paulo123 New Member

    Thanks for sharing such a great information. It is really very informative and useful for me. I really like your post.
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2011
  10. aiem

    aiem Valued Member

    Generally I stick to Gatorade, as it really gave me a second wind during an exhausting exam. I stir away from caffeinated drinks at all times before, during, and after practice. I saw one brown belter drink about 350 ml of a known caffeinated energy drink, and while he had an energy boost during the first part of the exam, by the last part he was shaking so badly and he couldn't hold his arms steady that the examiner cut short the belt examination.
    I wanted to share a recent read: coconut water is a very good sports drink. It's so pure that it was used as dextrose in WWII. Only concern is once the coconut is opened, the coconut juice/water rapidly ferments once exposed to open air. So no storing in bags during practice unless you want a sour taste. There are packaged/sealed bottles that can last longer, but better to read the fine print to be sure. Hope this helps.
     
  11. aiem

    aiem Valued Member

    Just a thought, I wonder what the old masters drank before? Surely there wasn't a Gatorade bottle for sale two hundred years ago..
     
  12. tonyv107

    tonyv107 Valued Member

    They drank from the holy grail. It would allow them to access their Chi energies.
     
  13. Razgriz

    Razgriz Valued Member

    Thanks mate, nice article and lays it out straight

    Raz
     
  14. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

    Thank you.
     
  15. Ninja Dad

    Ninja Dad Valued Member

    Try Milk.
    Seriously a pint of milk does wonders to provide protein etc to repair damage after a workout or session.
     
  16. wingchunapprent

    wingchunapprent Banned Banned

    Good article.
    Remembering training in florida with american troops they had a sachet of salt/majic/electrolyte powder we tried it and it was vile in water, but when you had had a hard day, even with the 9 liters they recomended us unaclimatised to drink, it had little or no taste, one old soldier recomended trying a pinch of salt, and if it didnt taste strong have some more, as that showed a deficiency.
    The other British Army susperstision was the pee fairy, if its dark yellow drink more, if its brown panic and drink more. mines often all sorts of wierd hues now as i love monster and rock star.
    but if on normal fluids it should be a good guide, I was also told by one of the jungle trained guys in Africa, if you drink shed loads, and wee a lot it helps cool the body down as it carries out heat.
     
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  17. brisrocket

    brisrocket Taekwondo instructor in Brisbane Australia

    I must admit I am a suppliment 'junkie'. It just gives you confidence to support your intense workouts with electrolytes and post-workouts with protein. I used to be against all the flavourings in these things, but now it's a pretty good reward for hard work. Heck, it sure beats cigs and grog hey! :)
     
  18. mmagap

    mmagap New Member

    does anyone know which protein shake has the most amount of protein per ounce? i know ur supposed to consume 1.3 X ur body weight in protein per day to build muscle (so if u weigh 100lbs then you need 130 grams of protein)
     
  19. Simon

    Simon Administrator Admin Supporter MAP 2017 Koyo Award

  20. ronak1981

    ronak1981 New Member

    They taste good.Give you a burst of energy better for teenagers instead of alcohol
     

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