New UK weapon laws

Discussion in 'Ninjutsu' started by garth, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    The zombie knife is basically the weird shaped, concept weapons. Which are impractical, however it was banned due to the "aggressive" look of them.

    A lot of stores now don't sell kitchen knives etc to anyone under 18. It's not a legality, but a store owner's choice. However it doesn't stop any of the idiots just picking one up from the kitchen.

    In regards to the ownership in private premises. Stuff like that has pretty much always been in place, the thing in question is context.

    If police do a home search (via warrant etc) of a person (for example) who has been arrested/known to be a robber etc and find offensive weapons in the home then yes, that can be added the list of further arrests.

    However, if Police come into a house to make enquiries and sees weapons are on display and you are obviously a collector/enthusiast and it is all locked up etc, then it's fine. You may get a funny look and a few questions but reason/context/justification/demeanour goes a long way.

    Listen, you can be arrested for carrying a baseball bat. But think about who can get arrested for that....the youth, in a hooded top, hiding round the corner in a dark alleyway, with a mean look on his/her face or a youth in a baseball team uniform walking from the pitch to the car park?

    Perception of intention / common sense.
     
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  2. Mitch

    Mitch Lord Mitch of MAP Admin

    I wish you'd stop bringing logic and reality into this.

    So, can I pay for my cappuccino with a contactless credit card impaled on the end of a balisong which I flash open at lightning speed imagining the lady cashier to be so impressed whilst all the time she yawns, or not?

    Mitch
     
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  3. garth

    garth Valued Member

    This may be puts it in perspective. From 3:30 if you don't want to watch the whole video
     
  4. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    So, here we see the possible rebirth of stick fighting as an English martial art. :p

    (just thought of that one)
     
  5. VoidKarateka

    VoidKarateka Valued Member

    I've been keeping up with Barringtons Swords over this since they're usually at the forefront of bringing logic and reason to some of the mare absurd weapons law proposals that keep popping up.

    As mentioned earlier I think we as martial artists are pretty safe so long as we don't start give anyone any reason to suspect we're planning on doing anything untoward with our weapons.

    Some of our laws are getting a bit ridiculous though. I remember earlier this year (or it may have been last year) folks were lobbying to reclassify airsoft guns (yup, bb guns that fire plastic bbs) to full on firearms that required a license if they exceeded a certain level of power (the figure would have basically meant almost all airsoft guns would have fallen into the category). Fortunately it never went through and I didn't have to panic about the cost of licensing my BB guns on top of paying for my games and new guns, and keeping the missus happy with my excessive spending on said hobby....
     
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  6. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    I have a kerambit. Also sporadically practise Kali. Will I have a problem?
     
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  7. EdiSco

    EdiSco Likes his anonymity

    Is it a sharp one? where did you get one? I might want one for collection purposes. It's a pretty cool art piece!
     
  8. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    If it's a fixed blade kerambits you can't have it in public, if it's locking or over 3 inches you also can't have it in public.

    Carrying it to training in a locked case should be OK though.

    In itself it's not on the banned weapons list currently.
     
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  9. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    Christ if i see a "air guns can be made into firearms" argument once more i might scream, let alone people getting arsy about people owning DECOMMISIONED firearms. Must say its quite amusing when someone wants something thats all ready banned or restricted banned or restricted. :p

    Edit: The amusing thing about this is, they let someone publish a book in protest of weapon restrictions in the U.K, which was a so-so guide to making one out of unrestricted parts. Called Expediant homemade firearms if you want to do own research on it. I say so-so guide, you need to at least know how to fabricate things decently to use it, its more a guideline on parts and tools you may need and how to assmble them etc. So 10/10,governmentt bans/restricts the objects yet doesnt ban/restrict books on how to make said banned/restricted objects.
     
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  10. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    Sound. It's a lockable one. Is it the blade has to be less than three ingestion or the whole thing?

    Not that it matters. Can't think of many justifiable reasons for bringing out of the house other than training.
     
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  11. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    It's not too sharp, I bought one in Thailand that was very sharp. Left it there though. Next time I'm going to bring one back. Maybe send so.some other cool stuff back in the post.
     
  12. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    If it's from Thailand, check the build quality before doing any test cutting etc, a lot of the fakes are terrible!
     
  13. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award


    Blade length, but as it's a locker it's a no go without good reason, and then it's down to the polices own view, so in a locked box, in a car, straight there, and straight back is the common interpretation.
     
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  14. Rataca100

    Rataca100 Banned Banned

    I asked Hannibal about places to buy them, i got the reccomendation:Traditional Filipino Weapons Was a while back before the site move over, still had the messages. :p Not specfically Karambits but Philipino weapons in general. no idea if its helpful, i also got told to try cold steel U.K.
     
  15. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    When I was working for John Lewis I could have carried one no problem then? I spent all day cutting up boxes
     
  16. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    If the police think its reasonable yes. (I wouldn't chance it) Personally I don't think it is, box cutters are for cutting boxes, kerambits are for cutting people.
     
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  17. Mushroom

    Mushroom De-powered to come back better than before.

    Pretty much this.

    As with my baseball bat analogy. Why do you have that piece of equipment? Is it relevant to your job?

    Now you're carrying a karambit. Well you're not advertising that you are, it's in your pocket etc. It's not like you're waving it about, or being a general idiot.

    A Butcher can carry their cleaver about, because it is a trade tool. Of course, a guy in white overalls, covered in blood carrying a cleaver will make people call the Police as it can be seen as "suspicious". Despite him being legal to have it in hand.
    But if I see that person, like any other...I don't know that person, don't know their intention etc. So I would probably end up calling the cops.
    However, en route to work and it's in a bag then it's fine. Then again, no one will ever know unless something happens to draw attention to the blade.
     
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  18. Dead_pool

    Dead_pool Spes mea in nihil Deus MAP 2017 Moi Award

    If it's a live weapon, how would you train with it?
     
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  19. Pretty In Pink

    Pretty In Pink Moved on MAP 2017 Gold Award

    I never have tbh. It's just a glorified letter opener. It's never left the house.
     
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