Nachi's Log

Discussion in 'Training Logs' started by Nachi, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    ah no, the dreaded September cold has come for everyone! I have it and all my colleagues from USA, Africa and Australia have a cold! Get rested and back on it :cool:
     
  2. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Oh yes... There are at least two to three people in our dojo who had it, too. Too bad I have no time to rest now, I am leaving for a karate seminar in Slovakia, which means a 3-hour training today (if we make it in time), and, as I just found out, 6 (yes, 6!) hour long training tommorrow and 3 hours on Sunday again. If I can last through it, I can last through anything, I suppose! :D
     
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  3. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Laugaricio Gasshuku in Trenčianské Stankovce, Slovakia, 29.9.-1.10.17
    Sensei Ernie Molyneux and sensei Roy Flatt (both 8th dan IOGKF) teaching.


    This was going to be my third time at this Gasshuku - 3rd year in a row. They always invite different guests, this year it was sensei Ernie - chief instructor of the UK and sensei Roy Flatt, both 8th dans. Apart from the European gasshuku I haven't been to any seminar since Okinawa and I was really tempted to go, though many people unfortunately couldn't find the time. There were four cars from the Czech Republic in the end, with only one from Prague, though. It was us two brown belts from our dojo (I was ok, the other is after an accident, walks with crutches and came basically just to watch and have a good social karate time). The third person was, of course, our sensei. Since the other brown belt couldn't drive and my car didn't have the highway stamp bought, the only other clever way for us to go would be me driving his car (if we couldn't come with sensei). ...aaaand, I didn't particularly like the idea :D You know, the journey is long (close to 5 hours, I think) and a foreign car is a foreign car. I am used to my 20 year old friend that tends to behave a bit differently. ^^

    Anyway, sensei arrived slightly late, so it seemed wo won't be able to arrive in time for the evening training starting at 6 pm. Before we went, though, sensei had some trouble and was condsidering if he shouldn't stay home. But partly because of us, I suppose, and partly because he was looking forward to the seminar and promised everyone he'd come, he decided to go. However, I had to be our driver, at least in Slovakia. Driver of his car. Well, his suv is really good and all, but poor old me had to drive a diesel car (not such a big problem), and an automatic car (first time in my life! but I suppose it's better than the other way around), and I started from a motorest where we dined, when it was already dark, and sensei just informed me the "distance lights" didn't work... Yep, I wasn't nervous at all! Not one bit! The car was completely different! It was silent and was fast, so before I knew it I was over the speed limit and the brakes were quite different as well, so I think my passengers were a bit nervous throughout the first few turns. I soon pulled my strategy to find a car and drive behind it, never leaving from close behind it so it can show me where the turns are and what they are like :) But after driving to and from the gym the next days, I got quite used to it. The automat isn't bad at all :)

    Ehm, ok, onto the seminar!
    We arrived just before the end of the Friday's training. So we only said hi to everyone and went to our usual cheap accomodation. And since both sensei and me with my cold fell tired, we went to bed at around midnight so we did get a good night's sleep.
    The next day, there were roughly 50 people at the venue. Mostly Slovakians, around 15 people (including children) from the Czech Republic and also several karateka from Poland. Czech and Slovak languages are very, very similar, so we can talk normally and are used to the other language. Polish is slightly harder to understand, but I suppose they can understand Slovak a bit better.
    Around a third or more of the people were black belts, up to fifth dan out of which two godans were our two senseis. Quite a few brown belts, too, and the other kyu grades were probably the smallest group if I exclude children who didn't train with us.


    Saturday (9:00-15:00):
    Sensei Roy led a warm-up - Junbi Undo, followed by a few knuckle push-ups and a few basic techniqes. Then we moved onto Renzoku kumite (= chokusen?) Gekisai Dai Ichi - kata in line. My sensei puts a lot of focus on it so I was quite confident, though it seemed some dojos don't practise it as often. We practised solo and with a partner and sensei gave us some tips. He also said something that wasn't giving much sense to the couple of us, who tended to do it another, more reasonable way, so we both went to ask sensei later and got a good explanation from a different perspective, which we'll follow form now on.
    An hour and a half later, the children training finished, so sensei Ernie joined us and we were divided into two groups - black belts and kyu grades, roughly half of which were brown belts. We practised a few combinations dealing with jodan, chudan and gedan tsuki - solo, then in pairs, then some in a group of three. I partnered with a young Polish boy who didn't utter a single word the whole time and maybe as he was nervous didn't put much strenght in his techniques and I tried to help him, but I know he has a brown belt much longer than me and I wasn't in a place to play the clever one, so I stopped then. Sensei always came by us and though we weren't going with much power, he always explained things to us so I could do them well technically. We also did San Dan Gi Ichi and two variations of it, one with a takedown. After one combination that we first drilled solo, sensei started to count and he was suddenly in front on me attacking. I hoped I could do what he wanted me to and somehow pulled it off. He previously probably tried the same with my friend from a different Czech dojo, who just went on the trainer's licence course with us. Sensei then picked the two of us for demonstrations of the drills we were to do in threes. Then we did a few kumite combinations. When we practised we had another Polish guy (actually probably the dad or a step dad of the boy) in our group. To be honest, ever since then, though we had a great chance to practise with people from other dojos, we (the two of us Czechs) kind of always paired together, because we know each other, there aren't differences in our technics and we can communicate easily + are of a similar weight and so on. So he was a really great partner for me to practise new things with. He was also sensei's favourite person to demonstrate things with. Later we practised kata Saifa and Seiyunchin and a few Seiyunchin bunkai. Also practised Gekisai Dai Ichi and brown belts were to pair with lower grades and teach them one on one - review their kata and show our own. I found a partner in a Czech woman from another dojo.
    Then we had a last short break, senseis switched places and we had sensei Roy for kumite training. We did a couple of simple combinations: block + counter for chudan oi tsuki and gedan gyaku tsuki. Sensei further divided us in brown belt group and the colorful group. Of each group of only around ten people by now, one person went in front, and the rest came one by one and attacked with a given attack, then on the other side. Person in front had to defend. Sensei has some great rules. The attackers needed to want to kill the defender, while the defender mustn't hit the attackers (they weren't defending against the counter after all). It they hit you, sensei threatened us with a thousand push-ups. I got hit by my friends and also, not on purpose of course, hit them back, but we were friends after all and when sensei didn't see... we kept the "ouches" to ourselves :D Unfortunately, when I finished my turn as a defender, I was thinking not sure of what and attacked with an oi tsuki instead of a gyaku tsuki. I realised it, but just a tad too late to change the technique, but not late enough to make a stupid face basically saying "I realise I did a stupid mistake and hope sensei didn't see me", although he was staring righ at me. He sent me away with 10 push-ups. Since he was watching, I didn't dare try to go easy on me and did them on my knuckles. My problem with these are not the knuckles. It doesn't hurt too much, but the problem is I need to keep the hands close, elbows by the body so the muscles involved are my triceps, which... is the core of the problem :D But I focused on keeping my back straight and when I finished somehow, even got a "well done" from sensei ^^
    Towards the end we had two short rounds of sparring. No gear and after 6 hours of training so sensei wanted us to go really, really slow. I started with my usual partner and just had to go faster with some kicks, if I didn't want him to block easily. Sensei reminded us to slow down, which I did with my next partner. I also brought my chest protector to Slovakia, but left it on my bed as my sensei said there is very little chance of us sparring.... Luckily, sensei Roy has some great rules for this and the drills back then. Well, this was mostly for the drills before now that I remember: If you hit a women in the chest, she is allowed to kick you in the groin! :D Love this rule :D

    After we finished, just as we worried, there was the same situation from last year. There weren't as many women and most lived near anyway, and... basically, the women shower room was locked or not in use or something. So we would have to wait after all the men shower and use their showers after. Last year it was an annoying wait, so today we decided to shower at our place, after we come back. Sensei asked if I really intended to go in his car like this. However, he couldn't say much more when I asked him if he actually wanted to go anywhere (since I was the driver). :p

    Today's training luckily wasn't as physically difficult, so I wasn't completely sweated through and through. We went back to shower - the water was still cold, though, like yesterday evening... just until sensei went to wash his gi. Apparently, after around 20 minutes of running, the water turns hot :mad:
    We went to the party in the evening, but didn't stay long. I was also getting rather tired and all of us went to sleep again shortly after midnight.


    Sunday (9:00-12:00):
    Today's Junbi Undo and some basic techniques for a start were led by Sensei Ernie, some work-out and we continued with Sanchin kata. Black belts in the front, brown belts in the back doing their best, the rest of the kyu grades also trying their best, but focusing on the form, not doing the hard breathing. We did it twice, I managed even with my nose I couldn't breath through very well. I didn't have a particularly bad feeling about my Sanchin, in fact. It wasn't my best, but I still felt quite good, though I realised I haven't practised for a while now and I should. We went through some Sanchin exercises, me with my usual partner and we didn't go particularly easy on each other so I was quite tired afterwards. Then as the black belts were following with Kanryo Higaonna's Sanchin, we were to pair with kyu grades again and work on their Sanchin with them. My yesterday's partner - a Czech female orange belt - found me again. She had a cold too and was worried, but despite that, I found her Sanchin really great! Unfortunately she later pulled out of the training just like her instructor for not feeling well :/

    We had a supposedly 5-minute break then (and who's late is "dead"). I made sure to drink, eat and find enough time to seek sensei Karol - the Slovakian organizer, a nice person. I asked him, if he could... as we talked about it before... somehow make it so that after the seminar finished, he would let me and the other two Czech women go while he or the sensei's entertain the rest to let us sneak into the men showers to shower first. We left our accomodation in the morning after all and had a long journey ahead. ...and waiting for all the men... meh. Especially my sensei always takes long before he talks to everyone and actually gets into the shower. After the break ended and we made lines (in shugo), sensei Karol announced that at the end, then women have the showers first! I don't know if they just counted 2+2 or asked sensei Karol who's plan it was, but our three senseis standing at the very front turned, scanned through the lines, stepped out, looked at me, frowned at the same time and my sensei in particular did a gesture of cutting his throat with his thumb, moving his mount in: "You're dead!". :D Too bad, though, we'd still have the showers first XD

    As a whole we then quickly went through Gekisai Dai Ichi and Gekisai Dai Ni - each once. Twice through Saifa. Then we were separated in two unever groups - 4th and 5th dans who practised Suparinpei - the highest kata and the rest.
    Sensei Roy practised Seiyunchin kata with us. We started with properly practising harai uke - divided into three separate blocks - and then with the movement in shiko dachi. Sensei had us bring the benches and one person practise the transitions as the two other hold it. Me and my partner were left out - not enough benches. Sensei let us practise on a line on the floor while we wait for our turn. I practised this a few times, so when sensei came by and watched, I watched him back and apparently never missed the line, so he said if was good which made me happy :) Then one Slovakian group invited us to their bench, then another one. The bench was, of course, harder, but I did better and better, though I staggered a few times, of course, and was generally less steady. When I finished, one person asked me about my a bit unusual gi. I tild him about its good attributes and he checked the name so he could buy one later, when the photographer approached. He was smiling and said he wanted to make me a nice photo practising on the bench. However, just as he took the picture, I lost my balance and the result is a photo of an incredibly stupid and funny posture with my arms thrown back, looking like I'm just about to fall (which I didn't!!!). I really hope he has some other photos of me, too XD

    Then we practised Seiyunchin kata itself, again black belts in the front, kyu in the middle, brown at the back. We went step by step so even the yellow belts could quickly learn them. Then we paired for some Seiyunchin bunkai - again, I paired with my regular parter. Although sensei Ernie's teachings is what our Czech association follows, some things, like bunkai, tend to change slightly over time, so they weren't exactly the same as our, probably slightly outdated version. Like the third bunkai. We block and attack with the other hand at one time, then use both hands for a push. The teaching senseis, however, block and use both hands for both the attack and the push. I didn't notice at first, though, as the difference wasn't big. But when we started, sensei Roy came by when I was doing the bunkai on my partner. I messed something up and I couldn't help, but do exactly the face that would give away I just realised and know I'm in trouble since sensei saw me. Sensei told me about the detail I didn't notice, too and with a dry remark: "Typical woman, always rushing." went away :D
    A while later, we continued with the fourth bunkai. The principal was mostly the same, but this version involved catching and attacking different spots. At first, I tried really slowly, step by step on my partner. For every single one(!!!) of the about five motions, my partner talked back to me, like: "Slowly, not there, this should follow quick, stronger!"... which, of course, made me mad! :D I frowned, and since the bunkai involved stepping on his foot and trapping it under mine, when he wanted to pull back after the technique finished, instead of letting go, I buried my toes into his foot, so he lost his balance as he couldn't pull his foot back and then went: "Ouch ouch ouch ouch" as his thumb popped out of its place. When we were laughing afterward, with him still jumping around on one foot, sensei Roy went by wandering what happened and when I explained my partner was rude to me, he pointed his thumbs up at me when leaving XD

    Soon after that we ran out of time and did the final etiquette. Then after all thanks were told, sensei Karol sent us ladies to the showers first. So,... before the 40+ men had the time to decide they didn't like the idea, now only the two of us (the third pulled out of the training for feeling bad and showered earlier) grabbed our stuff while sprinting out of the gym straight to the showers :D We showered as fast as possible, with only one Polish guy coming in in the mean time as he wasn't there at the beginning of the block when sensei Karol said we were to go first today. The showerd didn't have any curtains or anything, so when he opened the door, he saw me right away and seemed quite surprised XD but that was enough of a reason for him not to try to go in again :D Afterward I had a bit of a dilemma how to leave leave the room since the route out led through the men's changing room. But since the showers were occupied anyway, almost no one was in. Except for sensei Adam from Poland, who made an exaggerated pose not falling short of a teenage girl trying to cover as much of her body as she possibly could :D I then went to the room with snacks and when the Czech senseis saw me, they rushed past me to occupy the showers quickly before everyone else realizes :D

    We left right after that, stopping for a lunch. However, the traffic was terrible, some car crashes along the way, so we arrived in Prague after around sever hours, one of which was spent on the lunch.
    I was getting quite tired as evening approached again - because of the cold, I suppose, but I am glad I went as I enjoyed the seminar thoroughly :)
     
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  4. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Monday 2.10.
    I was supposed to take the children's class today, but I couldn't make it so I asked a friend. She will teach today's class, in return, I will take the smallest kids on Thursday when she can't come.
    I didn't feel too well in the morning especially, so I didn't go to CrossFit. I think I had my temperature slightly higher and CrossFit would be too tough. The sport tester - Polar a370 I ordered of Friday was scheduled to arrive today and I thought I can use it for a walk to test it (I wanted to go for a short walk anyway, to get out for a while). I put it on and it is awesome, as well as the app that goes with it. I fell in love immediately. It just started raining just very slightly, but I still went and even felt like doing a light jog. Not continuous - switching between jog and walk, also testing what it does with my heart rate and so on. After a walk to my parents' house again, I checked all the data it shows: awesome! So today's walk:

    Around or over 3000 steps
    Duration: 26 mins
    Average heart rate: 144
    Max HR: 169
    Training benefit: Tempo training
    Kcal: 240
    Fat burn: 23%
    Avg speed: 6,1 km/h
    Max speed: 10,9 km/h
    Distance: 2,7 km
     
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  5. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Tuesday 3.10.17:

    So, because of time and other reasons, I chose to skip karate today, but at least go to CrossFit instead. And the reason wasn't to try out my new sport tester. Absolutely not :p

    CrossFit:

    - We started with a short jog - hardly 3 laps around the gym, then static exercises for balance and the core mostly. They were interesting, but nothing difficult heartrate-wise to engage my sporttester.

    - 8 min EMOM - aternating between 30 s hollow hold and 15 s L-sit while hanging on a horizontal bar. Third, and mostly the last, fourst round of hollow hold, I am not very sure if I managed to keep my shoulder blades off the floor. As for the nasty L-sit, I did that, but during those 15 seconds, my legs were slowly falling down, with me being completely unable to do anything about it :D The last round I bent the legs as we were allowed, and tried to lift one leg, then the other, which was very, very hard at this point. Again though, this whole exercise was great for belly muscles, but it hardly raised my heart rate to any high volumes.

    - Strenght training: Finding 1 rep max for a strict press. Ehm, of course, this is an exercise where women are much weaker than men, so it didn't take too much time for us two women to get to our max :D 25 kg was easy, then getting more and more difficult. Did 30, then 35, then onl added 3 kg, but my arms stopped in a middle position and though I held and tried to push with whatever I had, the barbell wouldn't move. Instructor said I was moving my core just as he previously warned us not to. I asked him for tips, but this was mostly it. Second try was no better. He then said do it wrong with wrists bent, which is, at some point, hard to go past. He said up to that point I lifted it quite easy, but then it stopped me. I tried with wrists straight as he showed me, but, it was even more impossible this way.... I was more tired, but this way still seemed more difficult. So 35 kg stayed my max for now.

    - WoD:
    - 10 mins AMRAP:

    - 30 double-unders (or 90 single-unders)
    - 8 power-cleans (25 kg RX for women)
    - 10 front squats (still 25 kg)
    - 12 toes-to-bars (knees to chests for me)

    I did 3 full rounds and up to the fourth squat in the fourth one.

    So, this was a fairly easy work-out! Sure, 90 single unders took a lot of time, especially since the rope got caught all the time in the first few rounds, though for the fourth, I did again catch my rhytm I managed once before and managed to go really really fast in I can say, with the rope only getting caught just before the last jump :D I need to figure out how to always get into this rhytm right away. It involves using forearms too, letting them be swayed by the jumps. Then I can synchronize the movements naturally without thinking and get faster!
    25 kg for power cleans used to be a normal weight, but my last few work outs involved 40 kg power cleans (which I scaled down to 35), so as soon as I caught the bar, it seemed incredibly light and I paced through the cleans quickly. Later only taking a short break between the cleans and the squats. Because of my rope catching on my feet, I started the cleans as the last one, but actually got maybe a second best score (just after the guy who did double-unders, which are much faster as there's only 30 of them).
    I didn't even attempted toes to bars, did knees straight away, with my gloves on, and, surprisingly, didn't slide down as much as usual (I probably wasn't as tired). So started with more, and after a while till the end did always 3 at a time (which isn't much, but still significantly more than 1 or 2 :p).

    In the end, as I wanted to test my sport tester, to see how close I will be to a heart attack,... today's CrossFit was the easiest I remember! I didn't even need to sit after the WoD (and I normally can't even hold in a sitting position, unless I can lean onto something and just as everyone else fall straight on my bakc on the floor). I hardly needed any time to catch my breath and feel more like after a solid warm-up instead of being completely devastated as usual :D But my arms do feel tired from the press. Anyway, for that reason my sport tester didn't show any impressive results, I still need to see what the data will be like after a more difficult class :)

    Duration (Right from the start of a warm-up stopper right after the WoD): 47 mins.
    Average HR: 127 (meh, but I suppose that's to be expected with mostly strenght-oriented training)
    Max HR: 170
    Training benefit: Basic training
    Kcal: 348 (hopefully it is going to be much more next time! :) )
    Fat burn: 36 % (this looks nice, though!)
     
  6. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Wednesday 4.10.

    Sooo, I am still in love with my fitness tracker that keeps me motivated and urges me to get up and move. I heard the call and did two quick workouts at home, also to test what such short workouts actually do to me! :) They actually left me sweating quite a bit.

    1st workout:
    3x30 kettlebell swings (16 kg) and 30 goblet squats (16 kg) - time: 7:14, average HR: 131, max HR: 162, 53 kcal burnt (not bad, I'd say! :) )

    2nd workout (bodyweight)
    Push-ups, at least 40 burpees and 40 jumping lunges (done in portions of 10), 10 squats, 10 jumping squats, at least 2x10 V-ups and maybe something more.. - time: 13:09, average HR: 137, max HR: 159, 109 kcal burnt

    In order to get more steps, burn more and have one more training to add to my stats and see what the app can do, I thought I might be able to perhaps squeeze a 30 min jog/walk before karate, since the sun was shining! That was at least until I saw it was also fairly windy and since I am trying to get rid of the remains of my cold.... and suddenly after the two small work-outs I felt rather lazy :D Had it not been for the wind, I would have probably tried :)

    First karate at the uni this semester (90 mins):


    First half an hour was talking, the remaining hour exercising.
    - Warm-up: In pairs, stand back to back, turn when called and show rock/paper/scissors. The winner does nothing, the loser 5 burpees (without the push-up but with the squat), in a tie, both do 1. Repeat until one side loses 3 times and does 5 additional burpees. We had a few ties, but I never won and did all the burpees...
    - Junbi undo with some hiza geri and knuckle push-ups (that I couldn't keep pace of with sensei) and half sit-ups
    - Practising getting up without using hands
    - Footwork: Sliding sideways and forward and backward
    - 20 rolling push-ups at the end

    ...that was about all, I think. It is SUCH a pity I can't wear my tracker during karate classes :(

    Went up the stairs to my 7th floor, taken stairs by two to work out :D ....a poor attempt at some training and add steps to do my today's goal since karate wasn't counted... :p:oops:
     
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  7. Travess

    Travess The Welsh MAPper Supporter

    Did you end up getting one with a separate HR chest strap? My brother wears his regularly, (leaving his watch on a nearby chair, to receive the data) and it never gets in the way, or causes him any issues.

    Travess
     
  8. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    I didn't. I got one that measures heart rate from the wrist. However, if I buy a chest strap, it can be used with one, too. And it of course already crossed my mind it could be used for karate that way. It is very tempting, however, I would probably feel a bit crazy wearing even a chest strap. I thought I'd try to stay without it and I will see later :)
     
  9. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    And doesn't it get in the way? Like isn't there a chance someone will punch you in the machine on the strap? Ehm, as a woman, I got an idea where to hide it :oops:, but I wonder, does your brother never get it punched?
     
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  10. Travess

    Travess The Welsh MAPper Supporter

    That was my view too - I already have the accompanying HR strap, but have never worn it to Karate! Hearing my brothers watch going nuts, because he had hit too close to 200 BPM certainly put me off...

    Travess
     
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  11. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Oh :D
    So basicly you are only scared to know the truth? :D If you hit close to 200 BPM, too, you do it regardless of wearing that strap. It would be cool to know!
    And... I am at the beginning of knowing much about the heart rate. I know close to 200 can be dangerous, but I also read somewhere, that it should be theoretically impossible for older people to hit that much, but in reality dirung intense work-out it happens, and probably more easily for trained people. If I am not mistaken...
    And anyway, the tracker will only tell ou what happens, maybe then you can figure something out from it or maybe you'll never reach that much. You can never know..... until you try :D
     
  12. Travess

    Travess The Welsh MAPper Supporter

    Exactly :oops: - 'Knowing' that my HR had reached such a high rate would likely induce a panic attack, forcing my BPM to spike even further, which in turn my strap would notify me of. This of course would worry me further, causing another spike, and before you know it, I'm laying face down on the dojo floor! Lol

    Travess
     
  13. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Oh :D Certainly not :D Your heart is strong. It can take some meager 200, no problem ;) And.... the chest strap can actually notify you by itself?
    Then, what numbers do you hit when running or working out? You do quite a lot of stuff (according to your log), where I'd expect high heart rates, don't you?
     
  14. Travess

    Travess The Welsh MAPper Supporter

    Running is not too bad - It's explosive exercises, Burpees, Mountain clumbers, certain Bag drills etc, that really get my heart racing, but even then I usually peak bewteen 170 and 180 BPM

    I have no doubt that I am over analysing, but I could honestly see myself having a slightly negative response, if I actually became aware of how hard I was pushing myself (and for how long)

    Travess
     
  15. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    I see. I am very curious how high I reach during exercises. Especially crossfit, where I think I reach my limits the easiest. So maybe on Friday I'll find out! :)

    If you knew your HR is going that high, at least it could help you prevent it next time.... But, is it really that dangerous if you're trained?
    And... from another point of view.... at that time your heart would be beating so fast that perhaps any stress response from you wouldn't be able to rise it any more anyway :p
     
  16. Travess

    Travess The Welsh MAPper Supporter

    I'd be less concerned with it rising further, and more concerned about it stopping all together :D:D:D

    Give it a couple of decades, and you'll see what I mean... ;)

    Travess
     
  17. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Oh, I see :D
    You're not a couple of decades older, though :p And if you can actually reach that kind of heart rate, it means your heart is that of a young lad, right? :p
     
  18. Travess

    Travess The Welsh MAPper Supporter

    Not exactly, no, but fairly close.
    I like your thinking on this one - Now, if I can only get my heart to act as young (childish?) as I do, I may actually be able to live forever.

    All joking aside though, HR and overexertion is something that I am always very mindful of, and that training smarter can often reap more rewards more than training harder does. (Or is that just a lazy man's/woman's excuse?)

    Travess
     
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  19. axelb

    axelb Master of Office Chair Fu

    I've worn my chest strap in training sessions when there was not any sparring. I would not like to take a hit on it, a small chunk of plastic/metal is going to hurt, and more importantly you'll have a broken £50 piece of kit.

    On the HR side; you probably all have seen the generic formula, but in reality everyone is different - your Max HR is you max genetically you cannot change it and your true max you'll probably never reach. Certainly like @Travess as I've grown older I have been more mindful of not working in too high a range.
    That being said I naturally have a high range, max recorded HR is 205bpm during sprints, and in 5k and 10k races I'll be between 185-195bpm for the majority of the time - I've spoken to people much faster than me and some have lower race range 160, and others higher 200+.

    With the polar web app you can adjust your max if you record it frequently and also adjust your HR zones - this helped me a lot as when I started monitoring I was far too often working in 80-90% range.
     
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  20. Nachi

    Nachi Valued Member Supporter

    Thanks for that insight! :) So far, I have only come to around 170 BPM, but I haven't worked out to my limit, yet, I'd say. Of course, chest strap and sparring doesn't go well together, but I can imagine getting it hit in partner drills, too. Depends also on the partner. While practising like that, we don't wear gloves, so I imagine even my partner wouldn't exactly thank me if he'd hit it. :D Unless I'd place it well and then argue they have no place hitting me right in the chest or something :D

    I have seen in the Polar app it is possible to adjust the HR. If I ever record anything higher than that, I'll change it. I haven't even reached the highest zone yet, but from what I've seen so far, I would probably be in the 80-90% range rather frequently. Every crossfit, at the very least :D Of course, if my max HR is according to the age formula, but I suppose it won't deviate much?

    Anyway, 205 BPM sounds like a lot! As well as 185-195. If you reach that often, it can't really negatively impact your health, can it?
     

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