i like the sound of this Hak Fu Mun, sounds good? not heard of it before? im off to investigate not much online, anyone know of any uk schools?
Nam Kuen just means Southern Fist, you're more than likely learning Fu Jow Pai or a mixture of Fu Jow Pai and Hung Gar. Tak Wah Eng had a falling out with Grandmaster Wai Hong of Fu Jow Pai back some yrs ago, so he couldn't call what he taught Fu Jow Pai. There is someone teaching it within the UK now, his name is Paul Burkinshaw. He has spent the last couple of yrs traveling back and forth to Hong Kong to learn Hak Fu Mun. Here's the links for the Black Tiger Assocation website and Paul's school website. Assocation website Paul's school website jeff
So that this doesn't turn into a big long massive rambling style thread I am going to lock it.If you think of a style that hasn't been included,please pm or email me and I shall add it. Louise
I don't know a great deal about kung Fu, so I have a question. Would I be wrong in assuming that whilst there are a lot of styles here, a lot of them are simply subsections of other bigger ones - like a different interpretation, as opposed to a completely different style? Obviously there is north and south kung fu, but I imagine that there is more to it than that. Em
Hmmm... not really. "Kung Fu" is as useful a term as "Chinese Martial Arts" really... so its not surprising that their are heaps. Although some of them are very similar to others.
I understand that,but what i mean is that I find it very hard to believe that there are that many different styles of Kung Fu. Surely there has to be some kind of crossover - things developing from the same place/master/technique ideals but turning out differently, that sort of thing. I can't see there being so many completely different styles. Please correct me oif I'm wrong - thats whuy I'm asking - I don't know a great deal about kung fu like I said before. Em
You can also probably add the various different families for Southern Praying Mantis which includes Chu Gar Jook Lum Iron Ox even Steelwire which was a cross between SPM and Hung Gar.
Hello, Lou Interesting styles of the Chinese system of martial arts. What about, six elbow. The words like Hsing Yi can be interpreted different to. Hsing -element, Yi-mind. I do not mean for his to come out, like I was trying to bust your balls. Well maybe more like busting your chest....icles. Excellent list. To, The Empress. There are thousands of different styles with different focus concepts in Chinese martial arts. They each system has a major idea of practice and training. Though it seems odd or hard to believe there are different ways to strike than just hit someone whom is in your range between your shoulders area. Hungar, Choi Lay Fut and Chow Gar have style of different straight arm strikes that look similar and do different things. They are completely different in physical training and use of the same appearing strike. So you ask how can there be different ideas created so different from each other but have what looks a like. There is the thing, of where each system comes from and for whom each system is best to train in said system. Like 'Choi Lay Fut' is more for a longer reach person, if you have long legs and long arms this would be your system it allows for more types of clench and combine attacks that use said straight arm attacks. For instance on the system I name above six elbows, it relates to the primary focus of the direction the elbow best travels for power in specific moves. It can be stationary, it can move forwards/backwards, left/right, up/down, spiral left/right, it can lock.
I suppose this is right, yeah. While there are many differences between most of these arts, they can usually be grouped into groups, and sub-groups, and sub-sub-groups, depending on their similarities in methodology and execution, much like you do for biological life in science I suppose.
I already knew that. He doesn't teach Fu Jow Pai to anyone at all. It's his own style that he teaches. I would say it's more of a mixture of Hung Gar, Shaolin (what he learned from Shi Guolin) and Taiji.
Zi Ran Men and san shou are styles ive always wanted to try for there practicallity. not that the other styles arent useful just easier learning curve. but i love still love mantis?
I think you mean Lau Gar. It's an offshoot of Hung Gar, the fighting style of the Chinese folk-hero Wong Fei Hung, who was taught it by his father Wong Kei Ying.
Lau Gar is not an offshoot of hung gar. It's one of the five southern styles in it's own right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lau_Gar
San Shou should be available pretty much anywhere in the UK. Ziranmen, unfortunately there is no one in the UK qualified to teach this system. There is one Master in France called Liang Chao Qun, but other that him, there is a Master in Holland, but he does not teach much anymore, and one Master in Australia. Pretty much anyone else claiming to be teaching Ziranmen is telling fibbs! Zirmanmen is a "concept art". there is not really any standard forms, although some of the current Masters have created forms to aid in the teaching, but really it is a method of training and conditioning as opposed to a definitive system. In many ways it could be regarded as a forerunner to JKD, not because it uses the same techniques, but because of the "freestyle/no-style" concept.
Also, there is Serge Augier in Paris. Serge's first student is Alex Kozma in the UK, who is learning Ziranmen - however Alex freely claims that he does not represent the style as he is still learning. Alex recently released a new book on Ziranmen based on the writings of Grandmaster Wan Lai Sheng.
Serge attended a couple of workshops with one of the masters mentioned. Whether that constitutes sufficient knowledge to teach a system is open to debate.
Serge Augier is Grand-disciple of Wan Laisheng. Serge's Ziranmen teacher taught him from a young age the complete Ziranmen system. I'm trying to find the name of Serge's teacher, however my copy of Esoteric Warriors is packed away whilst I move house.