With a power jab you are moving forward with your weight, you just don't have to step to do it. However there are times you will step to do it. It's a matter of distance as to whether you chose to step or not.
that is a good post Rebel Wado. thats what i meant there are different circumstances -situations why its need to be different.but mostly because the fencing structure it just need different support from the body also there are small details regarding the preparations of the bodymechanics what makes the whole thing in one and successfull. the clip you posted shows hip first.no.hand goes first terms of non telegraph,also other details.so basically not really common.
One of the keys to the structure for power is the use of a sharper triangle between the shoulders and the hand. Hence the 1 inch punch using the sharper triangle for power. The sharper the triangle, the more power. However, a less sharp triangle can still have the advantage of allowing for quicker repeated strikes using both sides of the body. Even in fencing, after a lunge (sharp triangle), the back leg is bent to square up the body some (not as sharp a triangle) and allow for better defense and moving backwards. When using long sword and dagger, the lunge is not as sharp a triangle to allow for the dagger in the other hand to strike and defend with. The fencing structure is good, but it has to be weighed with the need to use both sides of the body. IME. Yeah, the clip showed hip first a bit. I think that was just because that particular technique did not involve a step. Once you add a step, the hip movement is harder to read as an opponent. Even if the step is just an inch or two, it helps. IMHO.
That's a no brainer you have to practice it against resisted drills. But if you do 20 and then practice it against resisted drills is not going to be as useful as doing 20000 and practicing it against resisted drills do you know why? cos then you are not practicing a straight lead against resisted drills. but a very stupid looking punch. and its clear hannibals idea of daily decrease is the exact opposite of what bruce lee meant so I wouldn't concern myself with what he agrees with or not.
I think some research on what is meant by daily decrease is in order. I'll give you a starting point. Daily decrease, hack away the non essentials.
I'm please to hear about your success with it in the ring and I'm not putting down your ability but I'm sure you agree that Doing something incorrectly for long doesn't make it correct. Would you care to demonstrate your straight lead? yes it is..especially given that he is far too ill to teach and has been for some time. Even he would tell you that to progress with JKD you need to accept to throw things out. You seem to be making the common mistake of confusing what he used, what he taught once and what what he stopped teaching because he found it pointless. Just because he taught an individual something once doesn't mean that he would have continued doing that at a later stage and if you understood the direction of JKD you would see why he threw the Hammer principal out. Its no use you training with first generation students if you don't understand this direction. . Maybe not but he certainly is the founder of JKD and the path was set by none other than him for JKD. Their idea of accomplishment is not the same as mine then. ALL THIS RUBBISH ABOUT "DOING EXACTLY WHAT BRUCE LEE DID GOES AGAINST THE PHILOSOPHY OF JKD" IS COMPLETELY FLAUD TO START WITH. THE EMPHASYS IN JKD PHILOSOPHY IS NOT BEING DIFFERENT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BEING DIFFERENT. ITS TO FIND AN OBJECTIVE REFERENCE POINT
Bruce Already gave us a starting point where he left off. Hack away at what he left us is all the research you need.
Maybe one of you could explain to me the difference in mechanics between a POWER jab and a straight lead. I have already given a description of it for the power jab including weight transference with and without a step. I've read Teri Tom's book and based on her explanation I don't see it. There is a large step in the beginning but that seems to me to be used to close the gap as otherwise the punch wouldn't reach.
I think that answers part of your question. If you don't execute the push shuffle and do it correctly it actually defeats the whole purpose behind the Straight lead. Seriously man Teri Tom is not someone I would want to learn the straight lead from much less a book. Call it a power Jab if you wish but chances are if I see you do it that's what Im going to call it too. Everything from where you elbow rests. The sharpness of the triangle. the 3 point landing the on guard stance, the straightness of the foot on landing, the double impact principal, the angle you land your fist and most importantly the push off make the SL what it is. that's why even former boxers who I personally know who have been now practicing the straight lead for years say that they still haven't got it right. Remember these are former boxers! So try telling them the straight lead is the same thing as the power jab. Its not an easy puch to learn nor is it easy to maintain, but nothing about JKD is easy.
State your lineage then we can discuss things. All you are doing now is saying lots and meaning little.
??? What are the mechanics of power generation for the punch? That's all I asked. I have no idea what the "sharpness" of the triangle means when it comes to power generation. Please try again, I am really interested.
I'm talking about the powerline that the connect chain follows from the rear leg to your fully extended fist. Learning the straight lead cannot be done from a book and not from a forum either you need to learn it from an instructor who knows what it takes to learn it. Look at around 3:50 in the video below. He does a series of very good ones just before an after. This was at the BLF gathering 2 years back http://sixbeers.pixnet.net/album/video/165506897
There are many triangles formed by the body. On the horizontal plane, I'm usually thinking about the triangle formed by the two shoulders and the striking surface (fist). For surging upward there is a triangle between the striking surface, hip, rear foot. Here is a good example of striking with sharper triangles. The punches with one side of the body use sharper triangles. The punches with both hands at once use flatter triangles which are not as structurally strong, but give the benefit of being able to use both sides of the body and possibly changing direction faster. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk_mwm5tgCY"]Tai Chi Power Striking Taiji Fajin Training - YouTube[/ame] The sharper triangles need more room to be used with a punch. Often you end up with elbow or shoulder strikes when closer in with sharper triangles. IME.
as soon as i submit my essay i will be posting 2 articles on MAP regarding this subject. Simply put, once you reach a certain level of skill development, there is no longer a need to train the mechanics 5000 times a day and instead it is important to train the application more (mechanics maybe as a warm up) as well as training it under stress E.G. the mechanics of a pass kick in football (soccer) might work well if you practice it 5000 times but you may not have the right application (passing at the right time, when there is an opening, using it to pass and not to strike), and once you have the right application, it might not work so well under stress (you might not perform it as well in a league match as you can in training). Bruce Lee might have have practiced his straight lead 5000 times, but did he test it with the right application or even with under stress once he reached a high level of skill? Some of you will immediately say "OF COURSE HE DID, HE'S BRUCE LEE MY LORD AND SAVIOUR AND THE MOST PERFECT MARTIAL ARTIST THAT EVER LIVED AND WE TRAIN TO EMULATE HIS TRAINING!" but he was young and lived in a time before research about training began to spread. In any case, the articles will be ignored by "self defence" guys because it will regard combat sports (and the fact im doing Sport and Exercise Science) as examples but a real fight is much more stressful than a ring match so the details of the article on skill learning and stressed performance will be even more important to these "self defence" folk as they would be for competitors.
I beg to differ, having been one who has had more sports combat and real fights than your average Joe Public, the stress levels of a sports combat fight far out weigh the stress levels in a real fight. A real fight happens in an instance so you dont have time to get the build up of stress, the sports combat fight has a longer build up, you have weeks and even months to deal with before the fight actually happens and the stress builds up from that point to the point that you are at a higher level of stress before the fight actually happens where as in a real fight there is far less if any stress build up as it can happen in an instance, most of your stress in a real fight comes after the fact. So in effect sports combat people are more used to dealing with high stress levels which is an attribute that comes in handy in a real fight.
